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<p>[QUOTE="barnaba6, post: 7990226, member: 115816"]<b>Why do we collect Probus coins</b>?</p><p><br /></p><p>Below I listed some of the main reasons which encouraged me to start collecting Probus coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can view <b>my whole Probus collection</b> (organized into 10 folders; one folder per each mint) here:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.colleconline.com/en/collections/3268/barnaba6" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.colleconline.com/en/collections/3268/barnaba6" rel="nofollow">www.colleconline.com/en/collections/3268/barnaba6</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I am posting a link rather than sharing pictures because I have too many Probus coins to show in one thread let alone in one post</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Please share your thoughts on the subject as well as pictures of your favorite Probus coins!</b></p><p><br /></p><p>For your information I wrote the below short note on Probus’ coinage and the reasons for collecting Probus coins for the Rzeszowski Auction House which will offer a premium selection of Probus and Aurelian coins from my collection on <b>21 November 2021: </b></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.rda.onebid.pl/en/auction/1365033/1578/Monety-z-kolekcji-znawcy-monet-Probusa-cz-III" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.rda.onebid.pl/en/auction/1365033/1578/Monety-z-kolekcji-znawcy-monet-Probusa-cz-III" rel="nofollow">www.rda.onebid.pl/en/auction/1365033/1578/Monety-z-kolekcji-znawcy-monet-Probusa-cz-III</a></p><p><br /></p><p>For more details about the auction see my announcement here:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-probus-and-aurelian-coins-at-rda-auction-viii-on-20-21-november-2021.388584/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-probus-and-aurelian-coins-at-rda-auction-viii-on-20-21-november-2021.388584/">www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-probus-and-aurelian-coins-at-rda-auction-viii-on-20-21-november-2021.388584/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The Roman emperor <b>Marcus Aurelius Probus</b> ruled for only 6 years (years 276-282 AD), but he left behind an exceptionally rich and interesting coinage, unique in the whole Roman empire. <b>There are about a dozen thousand types (including numerous variants) of Probus coins!</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Probus coins were struck by as many as <b>10 mints</b>: Lugdunum (today's Lyon in France), Rome, Ticinum (today's Pavia in Italy), Siscja (today's Sisak in Croatia), Serdyka (today's Sofia in Bulgaria), Kyzikos (northern Turkey) Antioch (southern Turkey), Tripolis (today's northern Lebanon), a fourth eastern mint of as yet undetermined location and Alexandria (Egypt).</p><p><br /></p><p>Each mint had its own unique style and consisted of a number of workshops minting particular types of coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coinage of Probus captivates with an incredible wealth of types of reverses (over 100), many of which have several or even more than a dozen of different iconographic variants, a wealth of variants of imperial titulature (about 100), as well as a wealth of types of imperial bust (several dozen).</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition, some bust types have many distinctly different variants not counting rare and sought-after decorations of the shield or cuirass in the form of, e.g. a Gorgon, an emperor on horseback, Sol's head, Sol in a quadriga, a laurel wreath, a floret, rows of soldiers with shields and many, many others.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some Probus reverses are unique in the entire Roman coinage (e.g. ORIGINI AVG or SISICA PROBI AVG).</p><p><br /></p><p>Similarly, some rare and sought-after Probus titulatures do not have their equivalents among coins of other emperors (e.g. titulatures BONO or PERPETVO) or are extremely rare and desired, e.g. the famous titulature DEO ET DOMINO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coinage is a very important source of knowledge about the reign of Probus, considering that - apart from a small number of papyri and inscriptions - no written (literary) sources contemporary to Probus have survived: in particular <i>Scriptores historiae Augustae; De vita Caesarum;</i> and the <i>New History</i> of Zosimos were written respectively more than 100 and 200 years after Probus' death.</p><p><br /></p><p>A reliable, updated catalog (corpus) of Probus' entire coinage is unfortunately lacking so far. Volume V.2 of the Roman Imperial Coinage (RIC) by Percy Webb on Probus, among others, was published in 1933 and is completely outdated. It fails to record many hundreds, if not thousands, of currently known Probus coin types, assigns many coins to the wrong mints, and sometimes records types that do not actually exist. Therefore, attribution in the RIC for Probus coins must be approached with great caution.</p><p><br /></p><p>The primary catalogs of the Probus mint -<b> in addition to RIC V.</b>2 - are:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Bastien </b>(Pierre) for <b>Lugdunum coins </b>(<i>Le monnayage de l'atelier de Lyon : de la réouverture de l'atelier par Aurélien à la mort de Carin (fin 274-mi 285), Wetteren, Éd. Numismatique romaine, 1976, 287 p., LXIII pl</i>);</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Alfoldi</b> (Andreas) for <b>Siscia coins</b> (<i>Siscia. Vorarbeiten zu einem Corpus der in Siscia geprägten römischen Kaisermünzen. Heft V. Verzeichnis der Antoniniane des Kaisers Probus, Budapest, 1939, 88 p. (extrait de Numizmatikai Közlöny, t. XXXVI-XXXVII, 1937-1938</i>);</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Guillemain </b>(Jean) for <b>Rome coins</b> (<i>La monetazione di Probo a Roma (276-282 d.C.), Rome, Quasar, 2009, 286 p., 20 pl. (« Ripostiglio della Venèra, Nuovo catalogo illustrato », III,</i> 1).</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Estiot </b>(Sylviane) for <b>coins from the 4th eastern mint</b> (<i>"L’Empereur et l’usurpateur: un 4e atelier oriental sous Probus"; Studies in ancient coinage in honor of Anndrew Burnett, Spink, London, 2015</i>).</p><p><br /></p><p>Also of great importance is the work of <b>Karl Pink </b>(<i>Numismatische Zeitschrift, Der Aufbau der Romischen Munzpragung in der Kaiserzeit, VI/1 Probus, Wien, 1949</i>), which to this day is the <b>primary source </b>when it comes to the <b>description and chronology of individual issues </b>(emmissions) within the mints of Ticinum, Siscia, Serdica, Kyzikos, Antioch and Tripolis. However, this work, too, is in need of revision and some divisions and classifications of issues are no longer tenable today.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lack of up-to-date, reliable catalogs concerning the whole Probus coinage makes it significantly easier for collectors to search for previously unpublished coin types, thanks to which they significantly contribute to the development of knowledge about the Probus coinage, including the preparation of modern catalogs. For many years, collectors have been actively collaborating, e.g. on the revision of RIC volume V.2 under the guidance of Prof. Sylviane Estiot (the invaluable contribution of the late Philippe Gysen is worth mentioning here).</p><p><br /></p><p>Collectors are also the authors of these fantastic and highly useful websites about Probus coinage:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.probvs.net" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.probvs.net" rel="nofollow">www.probvs.net</a></p><p><a href="http://www.probuscoins.fr" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.probuscoins.fr" rel="nofollow">www.probuscoins.fr</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, it was the collector Alexander Missong who first discovered and published the puzzling coded Eqviti series in his article<i> 'Gleichartig systemisirte Münzreihen unter Kaiser Probus', Numismatische Zeitschrift (1873</i>). For more information on the fascinating (A)EQVITI series, see Gert Boersema's article: <u><a href="http://www.oudgeld.com/webbib/translation_codewords.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oudgeld.com/webbib/translation_codewords.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.oudgeld.com/webbib/translation_codewords.htm</a></u></p><p><br /></p><p>As you can see, there are so many good reasons for collecting Probus coins![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="barnaba6, post: 7990226, member: 115816"][B]Why do we collect Probus coins[/B]? Below I listed some of the main reasons which encouraged me to start collecting Probus coins. You can view [B]my whole Probus collection[/B] (organized into 10 folders; one folder per each mint) here: [URL='http://www.colleconline.com/en/collections/3268/barnaba6']www.colleconline.com/en/collections/3268/barnaba6[/URL] I am posting a link rather than sharing pictures because I have too many Probus coins to show in one thread let alone in one post [B]Please share your thoughts on the subject as well as pictures of your favorite Probus coins![/B] For your information I wrote the below short note on Probus’ coinage and the reasons for collecting Probus coins for the Rzeszowski Auction House which will offer a premium selection of Probus and Aurelian coins from my collection on [B]21 November 2021: [/B] [URL='http://www.rda.onebid.pl/en/auction/1365033/1578/Monety-z-kolekcji-znawcy-monet-Probusa-cz-III']www.rda.onebid.pl/en/auction/1365033/1578/Monety-z-kolekcji-znawcy-monet-Probusa-cz-III[/URL] For more details about the auction see my announcement here: [URL='http://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-probus-and-aurelian-coins-at-rda-auction-viii-on-20-21-november-2021.388584/']www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-probus-and-aurelian-coins-at-rda-auction-viii-on-20-21-november-2021.388584/[/URL] The Roman emperor [B]Marcus Aurelius Probus[/B] ruled for only 6 years (years 276-282 AD), but he left behind an exceptionally rich and interesting coinage, unique in the whole Roman empire. [B]There are about a dozen thousand types (including numerous variants) of Probus coins![/B] Probus coins were struck by as many as [B]10 mints[/B]: Lugdunum (today's Lyon in France), Rome, Ticinum (today's Pavia in Italy), Siscja (today's Sisak in Croatia), Serdyka (today's Sofia in Bulgaria), Kyzikos (northern Turkey) Antioch (southern Turkey), Tripolis (today's northern Lebanon), a fourth eastern mint of as yet undetermined location and Alexandria (Egypt). Each mint had its own unique style and consisted of a number of workshops minting particular types of coins. The coinage of Probus captivates with an incredible wealth of types of reverses (over 100), many of which have several or even more than a dozen of different iconographic variants, a wealth of variants of imperial titulature (about 100), as well as a wealth of types of imperial bust (several dozen). In addition, some bust types have many distinctly different variants not counting rare and sought-after decorations of the shield or cuirass in the form of, e.g. a Gorgon, an emperor on horseback, Sol's head, Sol in a quadriga, a laurel wreath, a floret, rows of soldiers with shields and many, many others. Some Probus reverses are unique in the entire Roman coinage (e.g. ORIGINI AVG or SISICA PROBI AVG). Similarly, some rare and sought-after Probus titulatures do not have their equivalents among coins of other emperors (e.g. titulatures BONO or PERPETVO) or are extremely rare and desired, e.g. the famous titulature DEO ET DOMINO. Coinage is a very important source of knowledge about the reign of Probus, considering that - apart from a small number of papyri and inscriptions - no written (literary) sources contemporary to Probus have survived: in particular [I]Scriptores historiae Augustae; De vita Caesarum;[/I] and the [I]New History[/I] of Zosimos were written respectively more than 100 and 200 years after Probus' death. A reliable, updated catalog (corpus) of Probus' entire coinage is unfortunately lacking so far. Volume V.2 of the Roman Imperial Coinage (RIC) by Percy Webb on Probus, among others, was published in 1933 and is completely outdated. It fails to record many hundreds, if not thousands, of currently known Probus coin types, assigns many coins to the wrong mints, and sometimes records types that do not actually exist. Therefore, attribution in the RIC for Probus coins must be approached with great caution. The primary catalogs of the Probus mint -[B] in addition to RIC V.[/B]2 - are: [B]Bastien [/B](Pierre) for [B]Lugdunum coins [/B]([I]Le monnayage de l'atelier de Lyon : de la réouverture de l'atelier par Aurélien à la mort de Carin (fin 274-mi 285), Wetteren, Éd. Numismatique romaine, 1976, 287 p., LXIII pl[/I]); [B]Alfoldi[/B] (Andreas) for [B]Siscia coins[/B] ([I]Siscia. Vorarbeiten zu einem Corpus der in Siscia geprägten römischen Kaisermünzen. Heft V. Verzeichnis der Antoniniane des Kaisers Probus, Budapest, 1939, 88 p. (extrait de Numizmatikai Közlöny, t. XXXVI-XXXVII, 1937-1938[/I]); [B]Guillemain [/B](Jean) for [B]Rome coins[/B] ([I]La monetazione di Probo a Roma (276-282 d.C.), Rome, Quasar, 2009, 286 p., 20 pl. (« Ripostiglio della Venèra, Nuovo catalogo illustrato », III,[/I] 1). [B]Estiot [/B](Sylviane) for [B]coins from the 4th eastern mint[/B] ([I]"L’Empereur et l’usurpateur: un 4e atelier oriental sous Probus"; Studies in ancient coinage in honor of Anndrew Burnett, Spink, London, 2015[/I]). Also of great importance is the work of [B]Karl Pink [/B]([I]Numismatische Zeitschrift, Der Aufbau der Romischen Munzpragung in der Kaiserzeit, VI/1 Probus, Wien, 1949[/I]), which to this day is the [B]primary source [/B]when it comes to the [B]description and chronology of individual issues [/B](emmissions) within the mints of Ticinum, Siscia, Serdica, Kyzikos, Antioch and Tripolis. However, this work, too, is in need of revision and some divisions and classifications of issues are no longer tenable today. Lack of up-to-date, reliable catalogs concerning the whole Probus coinage makes it significantly easier for collectors to search for previously unpublished coin types, thanks to which they significantly contribute to the development of knowledge about the Probus coinage, including the preparation of modern catalogs. For many years, collectors have been actively collaborating, e.g. on the revision of RIC volume V.2 under the guidance of Prof. Sylviane Estiot (the invaluable contribution of the late Philippe Gysen is worth mentioning here). Collectors are also the authors of these fantastic and highly useful websites about Probus coinage: [URL='http://www.probvs.net']www.probvs.net[/URL] [URL='http://www.probuscoins.fr']www.probuscoins.fr[/URL] Finally, it was the collector Alexander Missong who first discovered and published the puzzling coded Eqviti series in his article[I] 'Gleichartig systemisirte Münzreihen unter Kaiser Probus', Numismatische Zeitschrift (1873[/I]). For more information on the fascinating (A)EQVITI series, see Gert Boersema's article: [U][URL]http://www.oudgeld.com/webbib/translation_codewords.htm[/URL][/U] As you can see, there are so many good reasons for collecting Probus coins![/QUOTE]
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