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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7574487, member: 105098"]Looked it up and it wasn't easy, for whatever the reason PCGS offered the "dual encapsulation" for the 2020 W V75 silver eagles also, just like they did for the 2019S ERP SAE that had numbered COAs.</p><p>... and I'd guess some folks out their paid the additional for it, but found nobody wanted the COA that isn't numbered with the coin when they tried to sell it so it got tossed in when it was sold.</p><p><br /></p><p>From PCGS:</p><ul> <li><ul> <li>If you would like to have your COA encapsulated and paired with your coin the COA must remain in the unopened packaging.</li> </ul></li> <li>How can I have my COA encapsulated?<ul> <li>If the COA is serialized or signed the COA and coin must be submitted to PCGS in sealed U.S. Mint packaging. To encapsulate your COA, we charge a $20 holdering fee and an additional $25 if the sealed COA is signed.</li> <li>Unsigned and non-serialized COA's from any year can be submitted for encapsulation at any time.</li> <li>Visit <a href="https://www.pcgs.com/coa" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/coa" rel="nofollow">www.pcgs.com/COA</a> to learn more about COA encapsulation.</li> </ul></li> </ul><p>NOW, what I found with more digging was this:</p><p>"T<i>he following comes from an e-mail sent to the numismatic press:</i></p><p><br /></p><p>The period from May 8 to September 2, 2020, marks the 75th anniversary of the conclusion of World War II. This month, the United States Mint will open sales for the four products in the End of World War II 75th Anniversary Coins and Medal Program.</p><p>To recognize this significant anniversary, a limited number of certificates of authenticity (COAs) for the <a href="https://catalog.usmint.gov/end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medal-20XH.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://catalog.usmint.gov/end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medal-20XH.html" rel="nofollow">End of World War II 75th Anniversary silver medal (20XH)</a> will be signed by United States Mint Director David Ryder.</p><p>The signed certificates of authenticity will be randomly included in shipments for this product from the United States Mint’s fulfillment center. The medal goes on sale November 9, 2020."</p><p><br /></p><p>So, while they all have a copy of his signature, SOME were hand signed, and if you wanted it encapsulated if it was hand signed, it had to be submitted in the mint sealed packaging and you had to gamble on it.</p><p><br /></p><p>What they are offering appears to be the normal COA otherwise it would have two signatures. but you wouldn't know this before it was graded and encapsulated. they would have paid $20 for it, if it were hand signed they would have paid $45 for it.</p><p><br /></p><p>they sell it for $25. I don't know who would want it, but that's how it occurred. PCGS offered the COA encapsulation for all the V75 offerings, and if you didn't pay attention to the details of the news release you might think it was in all products and not just with the silver medal, 20XH, or just decide to do it since it's a service offered for them.</p><p><br /></p><p>this flew way under the radar for me, I didn't know about the hand signed COAs or which product until just now.</p><p><a href="https://mintnewsblog.com/u-s-mint-director-to-sign-limited-number-of-certificates-of-authenticity-to-accompany-end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medals/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://mintnewsblog.com/u-s-mint-director-to-sign-limited-number-of-certificates-of-authenticity-to-accompany-end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medals/" rel="nofollow">https://mintnewsblog.com/u-s-mint-director-to-sign-limited-number-of-certificates-of-authenticity-to-accompany-end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medals/</a></p><p>Apparently it showed up on the linked blog, on Nov. 9th, the same day of the release.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7574487, member: 105098"]Looked it up and it wasn't easy, for whatever the reason PCGS offered the "dual encapsulation" for the 2020 W V75 silver eagles also, just like they did for the 2019S ERP SAE that had numbered COAs. ... and I'd guess some folks out their paid the additional for it, but found nobody wanted the COA that isn't numbered with the coin when they tried to sell it so it got tossed in when it was sold. From PCGS: [LIST] [*][LIST] [*]If you would like to have your COA encapsulated and paired with your coin the COA must remain in the unopened packaging. [/LIST] [*]How can I have my COA encapsulated? [LIST] [*]If the COA is serialized or signed the COA and coin must be submitted to PCGS in sealed U.S. Mint packaging. To encapsulate your COA, we charge a $20 holdering fee and an additional $25 if the sealed COA is signed. [*]Unsigned and non-serialized COA's from any year can be submitted for encapsulation at any time. [*]Visit [URL='https://www.pcgs.com/coa']www.pcgs.com/COA[/URL] to learn more about COA encapsulation. [/LIST] [/LIST] NOW, what I found with more digging was this: "T[I]he following comes from an e-mail sent to the numismatic press:[/I] The period from May 8 to September 2, 2020, marks the 75th anniversary of the conclusion of World War II. This month, the United States Mint will open sales for the four products in the End of World War II 75th Anniversary Coins and Medal Program. To recognize this significant anniversary, a limited number of certificates of authenticity (COAs) for the [URL='https://catalog.usmint.gov/end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medal-20XH.html']End of World War II 75th Anniversary silver medal (20XH)[/URL] will be signed by United States Mint Director David Ryder. The signed certificates of authenticity will be randomly included in shipments for this product from the United States Mint’s fulfillment center. The medal goes on sale November 9, 2020." So, while they all have a copy of his signature, SOME were hand signed, and if you wanted it encapsulated if it was hand signed, it had to be submitted in the mint sealed packaging and you had to gamble on it. What they are offering appears to be the normal COA otherwise it would have two signatures. but you wouldn't know this before it was graded and encapsulated. they would have paid $20 for it, if it were hand signed they would have paid $45 for it. they sell it for $25. I don't know who would want it, but that's how it occurred. PCGS offered the COA encapsulation for all the V75 offerings, and if you didn't pay attention to the details of the news release you might think it was in all products and not just with the silver medal, 20XH, or just decide to do it since it's a service offered for them. this flew way under the radar for me, I didn't know about the hand signed COAs or which product until just now. [URL]https://mintnewsblog.com/u-s-mint-director-to-sign-limited-number-of-certificates-of-authenticity-to-accompany-end-of-world-war-ii-75th-anniversary-silver-medals/[/URL] Apparently it showed up on the linked blog, on Nov. 9th, the same day of the release.[/QUOTE]
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