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<p>[QUOTE="David Atherton, post: 3224003, member: 82616"]At first glance, this Vespasian denarius with the common Vesta reverse doesn't seem all that special. Don't read the attribution info just yet if you want to try to guess the reason why it actually is so.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]839972[/ATTACH]<b>Vespasian</b></p><p>AR Denarius, 3.42g</p><p>Antioch mint, 72-73 AD</p><p>RIC 1556 (R3). BMC - . RSC - . RPC - .</p><p>Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.</p><p>Rev: VESTA; Vesta stg. l., with simpulum and sceptre</p><p>Ex Numismatic Naumann 70, 7 October 2018, lot 411.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a second known example of the Antioch RIC group 5 Vesta. It is also a double die match with the other published specimen, CNG 61, 25 September 2002, lot 1689, and an obverse die match with the extremely rare AVGVR TRI POT and VICTORIA AVGVSTI types from the same issue. All of these copy common contemporaneous reverse types from Rome.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the Rome Vesta.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]839975[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Vespasian</b></p><p>AR Denarius, 3.32g</p><p>Rome mint, 72-73 AD</p><p>RIC 360 (C2). BMC 71. RSC 574.</p><p>Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.</p><p>Rev: VESTA; Vesta stg. l., with simpulum and sceptre</p><p>Acquired from Beast Coins, October 2004.</p><p><br /></p><p>And here are the other two rare denarius types I have from the Antioch issue with the same obverse die - both were misattributed to Rome.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]839974[/ATTACH]<b>Vespasian</b></p><p>AR Denarius, 3.32g</p><p>Antioch mint, 72-73 AD</p><p>RIC 1553 (R3). BMC - . RSC - . RPC - .</p><p>Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.</p><p>Rev: AVGVR above TRI POT below; priestly implements</p><p>Ex Ibercoin Auction 18.1, 3 December 2014, lot 5106.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]839973[/ATTACH]<b>Vespasian</b></p><p>AR Denarius, 3.11g</p><p>Antioch mint, 72-73 AD</p><p>RIC 1557 (R2). BMC 509, RSC 618. RPC 1929 (1 spec.).</p><p>Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.</p><p>Rev: VICTORIA AVGVSTI; Victory stg. r., crowning standard and holding palm</p><p>Ex Pegasi 140, 2 August 2011, lot 319.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sometimes style is everything when trying to pin down a mint attribution, especially if different mints share the same types and legends. I would like to say I was the only one who noticed the auction house's misattribution of the Vesta as the common Rome type, but I think someone else knew it was something special - it was not quite the sleeper I was hoping for! The CNG example hammered close to $1000 in 2002, mine less than half that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Post your misattribtion coups or anything you feel is relevant.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="David Atherton, post: 3224003, member: 82616"]At first glance, this Vespasian denarius with the common Vesta reverse doesn't seem all that special. Don't read the attribution info just yet if you want to try to guess the reason why it actually is so. [ATTACH=full]839972[/ATTACH][B]Vespasian[/B] AR Denarius, 3.42g Antioch mint, 72-73 AD RIC 1556 (R3). BMC - . RSC - . RPC - . Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r. Rev: VESTA; Vesta stg. l., with simpulum and sceptre Ex Numismatic Naumann 70, 7 October 2018, lot 411. This is a second known example of the Antioch RIC group 5 Vesta. It is also a double die match with the other published specimen, CNG 61, 25 September 2002, lot 1689, and an obverse die match with the extremely rare AVGVR TRI POT and VICTORIA AVGVSTI types from the same issue. All of these copy common contemporaneous reverse types from Rome. Here is the Rome Vesta. [ATTACH=full]839975[/ATTACH] [B]Vespasian[/B] AR Denarius, 3.32g Rome mint, 72-73 AD RIC 360 (C2). BMC 71. RSC 574. Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r. Rev: VESTA; Vesta stg. l., with simpulum and sceptre Acquired from Beast Coins, October 2004. And here are the other two rare denarius types I have from the Antioch issue with the same obverse die - both were misattributed to Rome. [ATTACH=full]839974[/ATTACH][B]Vespasian[/B] AR Denarius, 3.32g Antioch mint, 72-73 AD RIC 1553 (R3). BMC - . RSC - . RPC - . Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r. Rev: AVGVR above TRI POT below; priestly implements Ex Ibercoin Auction 18.1, 3 December 2014, lot 5106. [ATTACH=full]839973[/ATTACH][B]Vespasian[/B] AR Denarius, 3.11g Antioch mint, 72-73 AD RIC 1557 (R2). BMC 509, RSC 618. RPC 1929 (1 spec.). Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r. Rev: VICTORIA AVGVSTI; Victory stg. r., crowning standard and holding palm Ex Pegasi 140, 2 August 2011, lot 319. Sometimes style is everything when trying to pin down a mint attribution, especially if different mints share the same types and legends. I would like to say I was the only one who noticed the auction house's misattribution of the Vesta as the common Rome type, but I think someone else knew it was something special - it was not quite the sleeper I was hoping for! The CNG example hammered close to $1000 in 2002, mine less than half that. Post your misattribtion coups or anything you feel is relevant.[/QUOTE]
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