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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3961302, member: 76863"]Pretty hard to argue they're driving the standard when they flat out say they aren't </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, it resembles the coin market for 100s of years if not longer of people finding undergraded coins or coins they feel they can sell for a higher grade raw to get more money. You're reasoning is completely off so is the assumption that this started with the TPGs or that older slabs are automatic upgrades no matter how many times that idea gets floated on this site. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No they haven't. They have however allowed collectors to collect a wider variety of issues and countries and saved collections countless times from coin doctors and shady sellers. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They don't do that. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Saying that over and over doesn't make it true. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Collectors generally yes. There's always going to be an anti TPG group trying to get others to follow. </p><p><br /></p><p>Many dealers would probably prefer to go back to the raw days as it was a lot easier for them to make money hyping things selling or talking them down when buying. Collectors were also more reliant on dealers back then selling too. Now if you don't like the price they offer you can sell it yourself or send it to auction[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3961302, member: 76863"]Pretty hard to argue they're driving the standard when they flat out say they aren't No, it resembles the coin market for 100s of years if not longer of people finding undergraded coins or coins they feel they can sell for a higher grade raw to get more money. You're reasoning is completely off so is the assumption that this started with the TPGs or that older slabs are automatic upgrades no matter how many times that idea gets floated on this site. No they haven't. They have however allowed collectors to collect a wider variety of issues and countries and saved collections countless times from coin doctors and shady sellers. They don't do that. Saying that over and over doesn't make it true. Collectors generally yes. There's always going to be an anti TPG group trying to get others to follow. Many dealers would probably prefer to go back to the raw days as it was a lot easier for them to make money hyping things selling or talking them down when buying. Collectors were also more reliant on dealers back then selling too. Now if you don't like the price they offer you can sell it yourself or send it to auction[/QUOTE]
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