I think you are correct in this assumption. It would have to be a company decision due to a high demand for this premium product. But if your like me and intend on keeping you coins not just throughout your lifetime but instead leaving them to your heirs its worth the fee. Imagine that in another thousand years your Morgan Dollar is exactly how you preserved it in your slab. Toned or Blast White. Now that would be cool! Especially for our future heirs.
We differ there. I won't be around in a thousand years so I won't care at all. If the biggest worry for the world at that point is whether or not my coin toned the world will be fine.
No, no, before submitting it. Although I'm sure there are plenty of people who think that a nice, long acetone soak is just the thing to remove ugly PCGS encrustations from desirable coins.
I've got a news flash for you. The biggest worry for the world at this point isn't whether or not your coin will tone in a thousand years, or even next year.
Here's a good professional vacuum holder. It can sweep up your coins when you drop them on the floor, too...
Oh yum! The only gases the coin will encounter will be the outgassing from the plastic. Or are we changing to glass? What shall we use for permanent gaskets?
You may just be uninformed, or denying reality. I believe investigation will determine that beautiful "toning"/oxidizing effects can be generated in a matter of days on cleaned Silver surfaces. I accidentaly determined many years ago that application of certain chemicals will generate various degrees of beautiful toning which can be controlled by varying application parameters, while removing surface contaminants. JMHO
Kurt, I want all my heirs to enjoy the coins I've collected. Even those that are living in 3017 if we humans make it that far. I thought you'd want yours to be protected as well. Just, woke up to find these posts. You seem angry and close minded about this idea, but for those who want to preserve the coins that we have now toned or not, there has got to be a possible solution. If you aren't brainstorming part of the solution , then I'm afraid you are part of the problem. Peace be with you. and if you don't want it to be with you..... keep on doing what you will. I'm sorry to be breif but I've got a train to catch.
I'm a firearms collector "mostly antique guns" as well as a coin collector. There is a premium amongst collectors for for nickel plated firearms that are Toned. I mediated a dispute for this company a few years back and I got to see how they do it in a shop right outside Chicago. It's called anodizing. Toning occurs in a matter of seconds. The guns are really cool looking and not rainbow colored. I'll see if they are still in business and possibly stop by and take some pics.
Did you mean to respond to Eddie's post by addressing me? To be clear, my position is that the attempt at complete preservation is effectively an attempt to nullify the Law of Entropy, which is doomed to fail. The best we can hope for is "ordinary good care".
Well the debate will surely go on. I've experimented with A/T to educate myself and will certainly agree that it is not difficult to quickly put some toning, sometimes even respectable looking toning, on a silver coin. But to me the other side of the debate says that a 100+ year old coin will have toning. When I see a blast white vintage coin I know, I just know, that somebody, somewhere, dunked it in a can of e z est. That's not a crime, I've seen coins that certainly were improved by a dip. Arguably, though, there is something not quite right, not quite correct, about an old but untoned coin. If you like them bright, that's fine. Where I'm at in the game, I will generally choose a coin with light to moderate toning. My choice, my thinking, but I respect other opinions.
Exactly my point. I will never make a buying decision on what may or may not be the case a few hundred or a few thousand years from now. If I like it I will get it, anything I own will pass through far to many hands and far to many uncontrollable circumstances to have the slightest worry about hundreds of years from now
I agree, an older penny that is a dark brown I would call tarnished, not toned. I'm glad I sparked some spirited debate and discussion about the toning found on proof 60's nickles. This is all a very interesting learning experience for me. I'm currently in a bidding war on this coin: Now THAT is some beautiful toning IMHO. See? You guys are changing my perspective and teaching me how to appreciate some nice rainbow toning. I don't just look for blast white coins any more.
OK, I get your point. But tell me, what happens when you run across a coin like this one ? Would you call that one tarnished ? Or maybe this one ? And lastly this one ? Do you see my point ? All of those coins are without a doubt dark brown, but yet each and every one of them is considered to be a highly desirable coin by most people. And not a one of them would even remotely consider that to be "tarnish". But instead, very attractive toning. Now you, and others, may have an entirely different opinion and not find those coins to be attractive in any way. And you may very well consider that to be tarnish. Now I could also post many pictures of coins that I myself consider to be butt ugly because of their toning, which would reinforce your opinion. But others will find that very same toning to be quite attractive and highly desirable. The point of course is that beauty, (toning) lies in the eye of the beholder, not in some written definition.
If you think that coin has "beautiful toning" then we have more teaching and you have more learning to do. My advice, run as far and as fast away from that coin as you can. It is from a seller with a questionable reputation for using enhanced photos to disguise problem coins as problem free coins. Toned Uncirculated Stone Mountains commemoratives are readily available and easily affordable in TPG plastic. There is no reason to risk buying a low grade raw one of these coins.