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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8092557, member: 19463"]A measure of how many coins were made is how often you see die duplicates. There are rare coins that only survive from one die set. There are common coins (like late Romans) where it is very unusual to see a die match. How many die duplicates of the Classical period owls can you find? The coins of Syracuse were published as a die study almost a century ago (Boehringer). The scholarly works on Athens show a few samples of broad groups in the Archaic and early Classical period. Why do we not have a die study of the Mass owls? I would really like to know how many dies were represented in the 'recent' hoard. 30,000 seems like a lot of coins but I suspect the entire output of mass period owls made would be a number that would frighten us all. I have not read any of the literature that addressed the question of owl dies. Have you? If I were extremely wealthy, I might collect Syracuse by die (733 pairings of 364 obverses and 500 reverses?). I'm sure he missed a few but 733 coins is not all that many coins for a rich person. Allowing for varying grades, a set might come in at $1 million and take most of a lifetime to find. I know more than one collector with that much in coins. Now try to get a set of owls by die. Lets make it easy and only try for the mass period owls tetradrachms from the last half of the 5th century (no archaic, no transitional, no pi, no new style). How many coins would you need. How long would it take? </p><p><br /></p><p>Syracuse: I have two tetradrachms. 731 to go? Can anyone catalog my first one? (c.480 BC?)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1406586[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Boehringer 703 (v345/r481) (very late in the series - c.420's???)</p><p><a href="http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/Boehringer_597.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/Boehringer_597.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/Boehringer_597.html</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1406587[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8092557, member: 19463"]A measure of how many coins were made is how often you see die duplicates. There are rare coins that only survive from one die set. There are common coins (like late Romans) where it is very unusual to see a die match. How many die duplicates of the Classical period owls can you find? The coins of Syracuse were published as a die study almost a century ago (Boehringer). The scholarly works on Athens show a few samples of broad groups in the Archaic and early Classical period. Why do we not have a die study of the Mass owls? I would really like to know how many dies were represented in the 'recent' hoard. 30,000 seems like a lot of coins but I suspect the entire output of mass period owls made would be a number that would frighten us all. I have not read any of the literature that addressed the question of owl dies. Have you? If I were extremely wealthy, I might collect Syracuse by die (733 pairings of 364 obverses and 500 reverses?). I'm sure he missed a few but 733 coins is not all that many coins for a rich person. Allowing for varying grades, a set might come in at $1 million and take most of a lifetime to find. I know more than one collector with that much in coins. Now try to get a set of owls by die. Lets make it easy and only try for the mass period owls tetradrachms from the last half of the 5th century (no archaic, no transitional, no pi, no new style). How many coins would you need. How long would it take? Syracuse: I have two tetradrachms. 731 to go? Can anyone catalog my first one? (c.480 BC?) [ATTACH=full]1406586[/ATTACH] Boehringer 703 (v345/r481) (very late in the series - c.420's???) [URL]http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/Boehringer_597.html[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1406587[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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