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<p>[QUOTE="johnmilton, post: 3580789, member: 101855"]There has to be reason why some coins are common, and others are scarce or rare. It's been reported from multiple sources that John had over half the coinage in England at one point, and that what he had was stored in barrels, by the barrel. The John era English penny is common, but not super common.</p><p><br /></p><p>It would seem logical that the Irish coin, which still around in fair numbers today, although not always in the conditions that we would like, was made in quantity and that he used them for wartime purposes. Like most British kings, John seems to have always been in a war or preparing for one.</p><p><br /></p><p>The trouble is most of the histories I read don’t cover much about money or coinage. The numismatic writers seem to spend most of their time on die varieties and the like. Some far as my British numismatic in endeavors, I’m more interested in the history of the monarch and how his or her coinage was used than die varieties. Changes in weight because of inflation, the need to introduce the gold angel to replace the gold noble, (Edward IV’s time) those things are all interesting. Die varieties? Not much interest at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>I been through the die variety game with U.S. coins (half cents to be exact) and that got old and frustrating. The rare ones were in “strong hands” that were not about to sell until the end of their lives, even if they had multiple examples of the same variety, and only at inflated auction prices. So I pulled the plug on the collection and have not regretted it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="johnmilton, post: 3580789, member: 101855"]There has to be reason why some coins are common, and others are scarce or rare. It's been reported from multiple sources that John had over half the coinage in England at one point, and that what he had was stored in barrels, by the barrel. The John era English penny is common, but not super common. It would seem logical that the Irish coin, which still around in fair numbers today, although not always in the conditions that we would like, was made in quantity and that he used them for wartime purposes. Like most British kings, John seems to have always been in a war or preparing for one. The trouble is most of the histories I read don’t cover much about money or coinage. The numismatic writers seem to spend most of their time on die varieties and the like. Some far as my British numismatic in endeavors, I’m more interested in the history of the monarch and how his or her coinage was used than die varieties. Changes in weight because of inflation, the need to introduce the gold angel to replace the gold noble, (Edward IV’s time) those things are all interesting. Die varieties? Not much interest at all. I been through the die variety game with U.S. coins (half cents to be exact) and that got old and frustrating. The rare ones were in “strong hands” that were not about to sell until the end of their lives, even if they had multiple examples of the same variety, and only at inflated auction prices. So I pulled the plug on the collection and have not regretted it.[/QUOTE]
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