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<p>[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 25538760, member: 105571"]As [USER=101855]@johnmilton[/USER] said, there are just fewer of them that survived and even fewer in nice condition.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your coin is a struck a bit off-center on both obverse and reverse and overall is weakly struck (typical) but particularly so on the reverse through TED STATES. Could be due to dies that were not parallel when set up or due to off-center striking. The rim issue below the date has some aspects of a cud but is more likely to be an artifact of the off-center striking. I don't believe it is PMD.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now to the quality of those survivors. Like you, I searched for quite some time to find an acceptable example for my type set. Almost every one I saw was dark, porous, and weakly struck. I finally found an 1812 that was acceptable and paid a pretty penny for it in 2019. Large Date, S-288. Photo below.</p><p><br /></p><p>Excerpted from Q. David Bowers Guidebook of Half Cents and Large Cents:</p><p><br /></p><p>"Generally, the earlier dates are seen on light brown planchets and are somewhat casually struck, with many design details weak or absent. Cents of 1814 are often dark and porous...Lightness of striking is the rule for the vast majority of cents of this type...All planchets for these cents were imported from Boulton & Watt of Birmingham, England, a firm well known for the excellent quality of its products...Craig Sholley suggests that either the Mint or Boulton & Watt may have begun adding a lubricant to the planchet, or that the British supplier may have begun utilizing a different source, or different ore base, that contained impurities. Whatever the reason, extant coins for later Classic Head years tend to be dark, porous, or both.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1635807[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 25538760, member: 105571"]As [USER=101855]@johnmilton[/USER] said, there are just fewer of them that survived and even fewer in nice condition. Your coin is a struck a bit off-center on both obverse and reverse and overall is weakly struck (typical) but particularly so on the reverse through TED STATES. Could be due to dies that were not parallel when set up or due to off-center striking. The rim issue below the date has some aspects of a cud but is more likely to be an artifact of the off-center striking. I don't believe it is PMD. Now to the quality of those survivors. Like you, I searched for quite some time to find an acceptable example for my type set. Almost every one I saw was dark, porous, and weakly struck. I finally found an 1812 that was acceptable and paid a pretty penny for it in 2019. Large Date, S-288. Photo below. Excerpted from Q. David Bowers Guidebook of Half Cents and Large Cents: "Generally, the earlier dates are seen on light brown planchets and are somewhat casually struck, with many design details weak or absent. Cents of 1814 are often dark and porous...Lightness of striking is the rule for the vast majority of cents of this type...All planchets for these cents were imported from Boulton & Watt of Birmingham, England, a firm well known for the excellent quality of its products...Craig Sholley suggests that either the Mint or Boulton & Watt may have begun adding a lubricant to the planchet, or that the British supplier may have begun utilizing a different source, or different ore base, that contained impurities. Whatever the reason, extant coins for later Classic Head years tend to be dark, porous, or both. [ATTACH=full]1635807[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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