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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1612273, member: 19463"]I'll agree with all of the Ides of March post.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't agree with Mat regarding the two coins. Most collectors who know no better will see that the first coin has EF detail on the portrait but is only Fine on the body of the reverse. Mat's comparison coin merges the head, ear and crown so I'f call it aVF but the reverse is decently struck and probably full VF. I'd prefer Mat's aVF/VF coin and would in fact buy it if I wanted the type. The OP EF/F coin may be a bit nice to get Mat's alternative grade but I definitely would not buy it and do suggest it be left in the coffin since the metal soundness looks suspect to me. It is scandalous that the coin I see was graded AU (obverse only???) but the strike/surface numbers strike me as several digits high. If the grading company actually used US standards it would be a body bag (as would 95% of all ancients). I do not work for a slab company but I'd call the OP an EF/F 2/2 and Mat's an aVF/VF 4/3. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do agree with the theory that slabbed ancients are just for people who don't want ancients, don't care to learn and want to impress people who know less than they do. I just hope they don't accidentally slab a coin worth owning and expect me to pay them for their $40 holder. I have zero respect for ANA regarding ancients (I dropped my membership over 40 years ago). Before I saw this one, I usually was close to accepting NGC as reasonable but we always fall back on the old saw "buy the coin not the slab". Finally, I just about hurt myself when I read that the reason we need to see a coin edge is to check for reeding. </p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, medoraman, I promise that I will touch each and every ancient coin you send me and I know an 5th grade class full of kids studying antiquity that would be happy to get their hands on a bucketful if you have them to spare. If its not too much to ask, could we have ones that show characters from the Percy Jackson books (centaur, Pegasus, Poseidon etc.)? Don't send obols, though, since they know they go in the mouth and its flu season. :devil:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1612273, member: 19463"]I'll agree with all of the Ides of March post. I can't agree with Mat regarding the two coins. Most collectors who know no better will see that the first coin has EF detail on the portrait but is only Fine on the body of the reverse. Mat's comparison coin merges the head, ear and crown so I'f call it aVF but the reverse is decently struck and probably full VF. I'd prefer Mat's aVF/VF coin and would in fact buy it if I wanted the type. The OP EF/F coin may be a bit nice to get Mat's alternative grade but I definitely would not buy it and do suggest it be left in the coffin since the metal soundness looks suspect to me. It is scandalous that the coin I see was graded AU (obverse only???) but the strike/surface numbers strike me as several digits high. If the grading company actually used US standards it would be a body bag (as would 95% of all ancients). I do not work for a slab company but I'd call the OP an EF/F 2/2 and Mat's an aVF/VF 4/3. I do agree with the theory that slabbed ancients are just for people who don't want ancients, don't care to learn and want to impress people who know less than they do. I just hope they don't accidentally slab a coin worth owning and expect me to pay them for their $40 holder. I have zero respect for ANA regarding ancients (I dropped my membership over 40 years ago). Before I saw this one, I usually was close to accepting NGC as reasonable but we always fall back on the old saw "buy the coin not the slab". Finally, I just about hurt myself when I read that the reason we need to see a coin edge is to check for reeding. BTW, medoraman, I promise that I will touch each and every ancient coin you send me and I know an 5th grade class full of kids studying antiquity that would be happy to get their hands on a bucketful if you have them to spare. If its not too much to ask, could we have ones that show characters from the Percy Jackson books (centaur, Pegasus, Poseidon etc.)? Don't send obols, though, since they know they go in the mouth and its flu season. :devil:[/QUOTE]
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