Whose Face Is This?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by furryfrog02, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    This is one of the last of my awful ancients that I can't for the life of me identify.
    After the great job that @Severus Alexander and @Justin Lee did with the roadkill Augustus of mine, I decided to dig this guy out and give him a go again.
    Still having no luck on my own, I am turning to you all for help (again...I'm sorry!)

    If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it!

    Apologize for the pictures. He is so ugly that the camera doesn't like taking his picture either!
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Looks like Commodus.
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Looks like Commodus to me, or his dad.
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    I was going to say Doug but he's not wearing a hat. :hilarious:
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    90% sure it's Commodus, 10% it's Marcus Aurelius. No other options.
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

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  8. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    I can't access Wildwinds at the moment, but I'd say RIC 223a.

    Screen Shot 2019-06-12 at 6.43.17 PM.jpg
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  9. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

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  10. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Everybody beat me to it. Great job, Mat, TIF, RC, and Sev! I too am seeing Commodus and Minerva (that shield was a dead giveaway).

    Here's my only Commodus denarius for portrait comparison.
  11. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    looks like Commodus to me.
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  12. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    As always, you all are the best. I only have 1 Commodus, a very worn sestertius that you can barely make out his portrait, so I am not real familiar with his face. This garbage denarius doen't help too much but I am glad to finally be able to put a name to a face. :)
    Thank you all again!
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    The portrait on this denarius is the closest I have to that on yours, @furryfrog02 .

    Commodus CONC COM Concordia denarius.jpg
  14. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I never met an ugly denarius I didn't like. Figuring them out makes the ugly ones more fun than the FDC's (not that I have any FDCs). Commodus is one of my favorite emperors to collect - a vast array of types, some of them weird, and I like his portraits - sometimes he looks like a stupider, drunker, meaner Marcus Aurelius (and looks nothing like Joaquin Phoenix).

    Commodus had, according to OCRE, eight types of denarii with Minerva on the reverse.

    http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=deity_facet:"Minerva" AND denomination_facet:"Denarius" AND portrait_facet:"Commodus"

    I think Severus Alexander/Justin Lee are probably right with RIC 222A, although it could be RIC 223A - I cannot tell from the legends. As it so happens I just got one of these this Spring - an ugly one but I am very fond of the portrait:

    Commodus - Minerva Den Apr 2019 (0).jpg
    Commodus Denarius
    (190-191 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    M COMM ANT P FEL A[VG BRIT P P], laureate head right / [MIN AVG] P M TR P XVI COS VI, Minerva walking right, holding branch in right hand, spear and shield in left.
    RIC 222a; Sear 5661; RSC 358.
    (2.46 grams / 18 x 16 mm)

    I just got another ugly Commodus/Minerva this month - an earlier issue, and it even has an owl that looks somewhat like a dog or a sea lion or something at her feet right. Not pretty at all:

    Commodus from lot - 4 denarii June 2019.jpg

    Commodus Denarius
    (183-184 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    IIII, Minerva walking right, brandishing javelin and holding shield, owl at her feet.
    RIC 72; RSC 424; Sear 5668.
    (2.29 grams / 17 mm)
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Tribunicia Potestas

    Another vote for that evil man, Commodus.
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  16. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper Supporter

    Great coins everyone. I only have a young Commodus, long before he became a paranoid psycho...

    Commodus denarius with seated victory.jpg
  17. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    Definitely looks a lot like Commodus. BTW, who is this guy, Commodus ???
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