Whole Roll of Toners!!!

not the type of coloration I like on these.

 

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So I have a serious question. What actually constitutes AT versus NT? I know the extremes, but lets say I took some coins and put them in one of those old cardboard tubes. I leave a little space between them, and then store them someplace warm for a year. Is that AT? Storage in an old penny holder so the obverse is toned but the reverse is red? Simply storing them for 10 years in a sulphur containing holder? I really want to know where the line is drawn.

Don't worry, I am not going to try to tone anything. I just have bought coins in all three situations, and wonder if they are considered AT or NT.

 

That is a big part of the problem. There are circumstance where it is obvious - sitting in a vault at the federal reserve for 50 years is natural while using a blow torch is artificial. However, there are all kinds of stuff in the middle where you will never get agreement - putting a coin in an envelope on the window sill for "storage".

 

Since there is such a disparity of opinion, maybe that is why I have disagreed with others about how they can from a photo easily say something is AT or not. I usually just say you have to be careful, since I have opened estate rolls and envelopes and seen some pretty weird coloring that I believe many here would quickly decry as AT. This was when ALL toning was bad, so there would be no reason to tone a coin for any reason except to hide damage. Yes, there is absolutely AT and NT, but many coins around fall into this "gray area" where people can disagree. I love the internet for communication, but photos of coins are not the same as in person, and I am hesitant to throw a coin under the bus without seeing it in hand most of the time.

 

This is a constant source of debate on the forums. Just seach NT or AT and you'll find a bomb load of threads discussing your points. To me it's beating a dead horse. There's better terms for toning IMO than just NT or AT. I like:

1) Unintentional toning (old toning, natual progression, market acceptable)
2) Intentional toning (exposure to hydrogen sulfide or other agents, may be market acceptable)
3) Obvious intentional toning (not market acceptable, i.e. ebay rainbow sellers)

 

Acid Trip, Yo!

This coin is very cool, I actually like it, even though it is a total acid trip and some might call it a bit obnoxious.
Here it is, thank you hamman88

 

Funny coin. I thought these were MS coins though. It's kind of a let down to an EF coin.

 

Based on details, I would've said an AU coin for sure, but with the damage and the possibly polishing, I guess a net of EF could be reached.
Still a cool coin!

 

I think most were UNC, but polished.

 

Did you ship mine yet?

Thanks

 

I think yours might of been one of them returned for not enough postage. It should be there this week.

 

No problem.....I hope you picked out some MS examples for me.

 

Never mind, they came today. I appreciate the examples! I would call these unintentionally AT'd. The color progressions are like a latin festival. They are fun to look at. Thanks again!

The like the second purple one the best. Nothing like some fun coins!

 

Here's the last one! :smile

 

I gave you the 3 different types there was in the roll, MS/AU, worn, and the one where the toning is a big spot.

 

I don't care what anybody says, these are really neat coins! I once had a similar experience with a roll of wheaties, but they looked more like somebody was walking around with them in his socks all day, whereas yours are much more interesting!

 

Pretty cool coins. love them A LOT!

 

I suppose the 60-D SD has no premium, even though it IS scarcer than the LD. There's enough of both to eliminate the premium. It certainly didn't keep me from going through large quantities as a kid though.

I'd pay a premium for them. 10 cents for the circulated 20 cents for the Au and 30 cents for the Uncs. Now I'm NOT into toners, but at this price, I'd shell out a few bucks.

 

Would you do a closeup on the top coin? It's either an extraneous shadow or possibly the 1960-D SD D/D.

 

gonna look on eBay for some today.