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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 8080992, member: 26302&quot;]If a Roman coin exists listing him as Augustus, then I believe the baseline has to be considered a ruler. However, if its a small territory, be it Alexandria, Gaul, etc I would call him a usurper. I would probably label PN a usurper IMHO if I had to make such a call, along with all of the Gallic empire, etc. To me they had to control a &quot;normal&quot; amount of the empire under the current system to be the &quot;emperor&quot;. PN does not qualify because back then the empire was not split. If he controlled what he controlled 200 years later, I might label him an emperor but at that time the empire was regularly split in half. PN, and many in eras where the emperor died and the army was in revolt, probably has the strongest case of any I can think of being labeled and emperor versus usurper, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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