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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 717134, member: 112"]Stainless I have asked that question (your last sentence) since before you were born. And the standards, well the standards will never change until we, all the collectors and dealers alike, band together and demand that they change.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now as to who makes them - everybody makes them. And that is the problem. PCGS makes theirs, NGC makes theirs, ANACS makes theirs, ICG makes theirs, the ANA makes theirs - everybody makes their own. And then you have dealers and collectors who try to interpret those standards and use them. It's no wonder it's such a mess. How could it be anything else ?</p><p><br /></p><p>There is one group however who has absolutely nothing to do with the standards. Care to guess who that is ? It's the professional graders. Each and every grader out there does what they are told by the company they work for. They have to grade according to the standards set forth by their company. And usually, that boils down to 1 man for each.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now ya wanna know what the funny part is ? Every one of those guys was involved and played large parts in writing the ANA standards. Yeah, the ones that not a single TPG uses. I'm tellin ya it kills me, just kills me that guys could write such a book and then throw it out the window and completely ignore it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to your comments about bumping key dates and rarities - yeah they do it. And they should all be beat with stick for doing it. But they are the de facto and they get away with doing it because <b>WE</b> allow them to. We are the market, all of us. And by blindly accepting what they do we give them the power to continue doing it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why do we do it ? Money & ego, plain and simple money & ego. The people submitting the coins, those selling them, and those buying them want the higher grades. So they let them get away with it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>More like 1 out of 10,000.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 717134, member: 112"]Stainless I have asked that question (your last sentence) since before you were born. And the standards, well the standards will never change until we, all the collectors and dealers alike, band together and demand that they change. Now as to who makes them - everybody makes them. And that is the problem. PCGS makes theirs, NGC makes theirs, ANACS makes theirs, ICG makes theirs, the ANA makes theirs - everybody makes their own. And then you have dealers and collectors who try to interpret those standards and use them. It's no wonder it's such a mess. How could it be anything else ? There is one group however who has absolutely nothing to do with the standards. Care to guess who that is ? It's the professional graders. Each and every grader out there does what they are told by the company they work for. They have to grade according to the standards set forth by their company. And usually, that boils down to 1 man for each. Now ya wanna know what the funny part is ? Every one of those guys was involved and played large parts in writing the ANA standards. Yeah, the ones that not a single TPG uses. I'm tellin ya it kills me, just kills me that guys could write such a book and then throw it out the window and completely ignore it. As to your comments about bumping key dates and rarities - yeah they do it. And they should all be beat with stick for doing it. But they are the de facto and they get away with doing it because [B]WE[/B] allow them to. We are the market, all of us. And by blindly accepting what they do we give them the power to continue doing it. Why do we do it ? Money & ego, plain and simple money & ego. The people submitting the coins, those selling them, and those buying them want the higher grades. So they let them get away with it. More like 1 out of 10,000.[/QUOTE]
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