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<p>[QUOTE="Julius Germanicus, post: 3307883, member: 80783"]No, we are not. There are no undisputed statues or busts of either of the Gordiani Africani left (same for Herennius Etruscus, Hostilian, Carus and Numerian) but that does not keep people from attributing certain old marble heads to them on the internet <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p>By the way this guy looks more like Claudius Cothicus to me...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It is thought that the celators did not have a recent bust (or painting) of Gordian I at hand when they had to prepare dies for the absent Emperor in a matter of days (or hours), so they had to with whatever his daughter could find at the family villa, which may have been a decades old portrait, or just had to make up something from hearsay.</p><p>Gordian IIs portraits, on the other hand, are highly individual and therefore must be created after a realistic (and recent) source. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have the same "problem" as you. My second Gordian is still in the mail/customs and I´m trying to shorten the waiting time with research <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p>Who would want to have two rather costly coins of the same guy - no matter who is who?</p><p><br /></p><p>My new coin used to be attributed to Gordian I in this 1913 catalogue:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]876521[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]876522[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This coin is from the same obverse die as the six coins in my second and third posts above (the only obverse die regularly used for Victoria Sestertii of Gordian II) and therefore must be Gordian II (or the bald Gordian that is seen as Gordian II nowadays). Accordingly, it was described as Gordian II by my seller. </p><p><br /></p><p>These seven coins are the <i>only</i> published specimens of this type (RIC 7 / C 13 / BMCRE 29 / Banti 6) apart from a specimen in Paris (mentioned by Cohen) and the three OP coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>The three OP coins all have problems: Nr.1 has surface concerns, Nr.2 and Nr.3 come from dies that are also attributed to Gordian I (see my last post), Nr.3 shows a hairline, and <i>they do not come from the same die as the other 7 specimens.</i></p><p><i></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Julius Germanicus, post: 3307883, member: 80783"]No, we are not. There are no undisputed statues or busts of either of the Gordiani Africani left (same for Herennius Etruscus, Hostilian, Carus and Numerian) but that does not keep people from attributing certain old marble heads to them on the internet :-). By the way this guy looks more like Claudius Cothicus to me... It is thought that the celators did not have a recent bust (or painting) of Gordian I at hand when they had to prepare dies for the absent Emperor in a matter of days (or hours), so they had to with whatever his daughter could find at the family villa, which may have been a decades old portrait, or just had to make up something from hearsay. Gordian IIs portraits, on the other hand, are highly individual and therefore must be created after a realistic (and recent) source. I have the same "problem" as you. My second Gordian is still in the mail/customs and I´m trying to shorten the waiting time with research :-). Who would want to have two rather costly coins of the same guy - no matter who is who? My new coin used to be attributed to Gordian I in this 1913 catalogue: [ATTACH=full]876521[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]876522[/ATTACH] This coin is from the same obverse die as the six coins in my second and third posts above (the only obverse die regularly used for Victoria Sestertii of Gordian II) and therefore must be Gordian II (or the bald Gordian that is seen as Gordian II nowadays). Accordingly, it was described as Gordian II by my seller. These seven coins are the [I]only[/I] published specimens of this type (RIC 7 / C 13 / BMCRE 29 / Banti 6) apart from a specimen in Paris (mentioned by Cohen) and the three OP coins. The three OP coins all have problems: Nr.1 has surface concerns, Nr.2 and Nr.3 come from dies that are also attributed to Gordian I (see my last post), Nr.3 shows a hairline, and [I]they do not come from the same die as the other 7 specimens. [/I][/QUOTE]
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