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<p>[QUOTE="Colonialjohn, post: 2488865, member: 57741"]Personally I think the coin is legitimate since to me this does not look like an electrotype seal. Further since the weight is spot on this favors its regal status. I have a new book coming out in a few months via Amazon Books on counterfeits. Much information backed up with XRF data and in my book I address these Crowns or at least show a contemporary counterfeit of this period and discuss its diagnostics in my World Chapter which runs from 1500-1800 for several countries primarily England, France and Spain. An electrotype with a rim to rim die break and a proper regal weight. I don't think so ... the edge looks like a Castaing Edge slippage outcome (i.e., not really an error per se as slippage of edge devices occurs occasionally and has no real premium IMO from these poor pictures).</p><p>England experimented briefly with milled coinage, but it wasn't until <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Blondeau" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Blondeau" rel="nofollow">Peter Blondeau</a> brought his method of minting coins there in the mid-seventeenth century that such coinage began in earnest in that country. Blondeau also invented a different method of marking the edge, which was, according to him, faster and less costly than the method pioneered by Olivier. Though Blondeau's exact method was secretive, numismatists have asserted that it likely resembled the later device invented by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Castaing" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Castaing" rel="nofollow">Jean Castaing</a>. Castaing's machine marked the edges by means of two steel rulers, which, when a coinage blank was forced between them, imprinted legends or designs on its edge. Castaing's device found favor in France, and it was eventually adopted in other nations, including Britain and the United States, but it was eventually phased out by mechanized minting techniques. Although I did not confirm if this particular issue was the result of this anti-counterfeiting technique in KM. At work ... its regal to me unless further data is revealed. THis strong die break in terms of its sharpness also rules out cast IMO. </p><p><br /></p><p>John Lorenzo</p><p>United States[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Colonialjohn, post: 2488865, member: 57741"]Personally I think the coin is legitimate since to me this does not look like an electrotype seal. Further since the weight is spot on this favors its regal status. I have a new book coming out in a few months via Amazon Books on counterfeits. Much information backed up with XRF data and in my book I address these Crowns or at least show a contemporary counterfeit of this period and discuss its diagnostics in my World Chapter which runs from 1500-1800 for several countries primarily England, France and Spain. An electrotype with a rim to rim die break and a proper regal weight. I don't think so ... the edge looks like a Castaing Edge slippage outcome (i.e., not really an error per se as slippage of edge devices occurs occasionally and has no real premium IMO from these poor pictures). England experimented briefly with milled coinage, but it wasn't until [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Blondeau']Peter Blondeau[/URL] brought his method of minting coins there in the mid-seventeenth century that such coinage began in earnest in that country. Blondeau also invented a different method of marking the edge, which was, according to him, faster and less costly than the method pioneered by Olivier. Though Blondeau's exact method was secretive, numismatists have asserted that it likely resembled the later device invented by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Castaing']Jean Castaing[/URL]. Castaing's machine marked the edges by means of two steel rulers, which, when a coinage blank was forced between them, imprinted legends or designs on its edge. Castaing's device found favor in France, and it was eventually adopted in other nations, including Britain and the United States, but it was eventually phased out by mechanized minting techniques. Although I did not confirm if this particular issue was the result of this anti-counterfeiting technique in KM. At work ... its regal to me unless further data is revealed. THis strong die break in terms of its sharpness also rules out cast IMO. John Lorenzo United States[/QUOTE]
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