Who exactly was "Blakesley" that's known for the Blakesley Effect?

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  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Does anyone have any information on him? His first name? Where he was from? his other contributions? What he did for a living?

    @Fred Weinberg did you know him, perhaps?
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    So many thoughts, so little sarcasm to share.

    :)
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/question-about-blakesley-effect.301117/#post-2821233

    Fred Weinberg stated..

    Quote - "All I can add to this part of the discussion
    (because you guys got the Blakesley Effect
    right) is that I'm one of the very very few
    still alive that knew Mr. Blakesley

    He would attend the Error Club of Hollywood
    meetings (which started in the fall of 1967)

    He was just developing his theory of clips,
    and the effect that bears his name, at that
    time. He explained to me, and other club
    members, the three ways to authenticate
    a (curved) clip." Closed quote
     
  5. Insider

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    Fred Weinberg posted:

    "All I can add to this part of the discussion (because you guys got the Blakesley Effect right) is that I'm one of the very very few still alive that knew Mr. Blakesley He would attend the Error Club of Hollywood meetings (which started in the fall of 1967) He was just developing his theory of clips, and the effect that bears his name, at that time. He explained to me, and other club members, the three ways to authenticate a (curved) clip. 1. Metal Flow towards the void/clipped area 2. The weak rim area opposite the clip - which we now call the Blakesley Effect 3. The "Cut & Tear" mark area INSIDE the clip itself, from when the Punch came down on the planchet strip - the punch only had to go thru 51% of the strip to punch out the blank - so all Type 1 Blanks of any denomination, and curved clips, have it - there is a band of smooth area inside the clip from the 'punch', and a rough area inside the clip (picture it horizontally) from the 'tearing' of the blank down thru the planchet strip - i.e.; Punch and Tear Mark. He was a great person - tall, lanky, an avid runner, very soft spoken, and very intelligent. Hope this background info helps a bit. (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/question-about-blakesley-effect.301117/)

    It would make a great article to research this man - his first name and any articles he wrote about clips.
     
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  6. paddyman98

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  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    OK. Thanks, but I already have all of that info.

    I am looking for info about HIM - the person - not the Blakesley Effect. I know what it is
     
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  8. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Although I saw him at least once a month at the ECOH meetings,
    and some OCNEC Meetings, he was very very secret about his first
    name, for some reason. (OCNEC = Orange Country (Calif) Numismatic Error Club)

    I believe that Mort Goodman knew it - I heard it once, but I can't remember it !

    He lived in La Jolla, Calif. (north of San Diego)

    When I said 'one of the very few alive now who knew him', I would include
    collector Mike Chambers, and maybe a few ECOH members still around here
    in LA - and I can only think of 2-3.

    What I knew about him I posted in the thread that Insider posted above -
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    I feel like one of my very old Error Trends magazine issues had a story about him.. I would have to look through them..

    Hey.. I posted the link to the CoinTalk thread before Insider did!
    :hilarious:
     
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  10. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Yea, but your post was 'clipped' off before the end of the 'Strip post'
     
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  11. Insider

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    LOL. Yeah Paddy, you're not in "The Circle." :D
     
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  12. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    And, although I too tend to remember a short 'blurb' about him
    in ETCM, I believe it had no real 'good' personal info on him, more
    about what he would present each month at ECOH meetings, to the members.

    He wasn't a coin collector, but a serious researcher.

    There are a few photos in a past issue or two of the Errorscope,
    but he was camera shy too........

    I can still picture him exactly - as I said years ago, very tall,
    lanky, bald, soft-spoken, professional demeanor, and so on.
     
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  13. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Hi, Fred. Can I share the info you presented outside this group?
     
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  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    This information from Fred can also be found on collectors Universe forms
     
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  15. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    @Fred Weinberg Someone claiming to be his grandson said his first name was "Mickey." Does that ring a bell?
     
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  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Someone claiming that his wife's grandfather was Mickey Blakesley.. I saw that Joe on FB!
    Very interesting
     
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  17. JCro57

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  18. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    OK. I got word from the relative that "Mickey" was Mr. Blakesley's nickname. I have his real name, where he was from, etc., that was confirmed with a bit more proof. People who met him have confirmed that photo above is him, and that was his membership number for NECA, in addition to that being a good address that he used.

    Looks like this is the real deal, and I am going to be writing an article for CONECA about him.
     
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  19. Southernman189

    Southernman189 Well-Known Member

    ole' quick draw
     
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  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Excellent. He shall not be forgotten.

    Interestingly, Charles Hoskins was the first Director of the ANA's Certification Service. He remained in that position until it was moved to Co and he refused to move out west. Hoskins started a competing Authentication Service - INSAB. INS also became the first coin grading service, offering a grading opinion for free upon request along with the authentication opinion.

    My point is this: When he died, his relatives contacted the ANA to donate some stuff and they were told "We've never heard of him!" The family finally found me and I was able to send a notice of his passing to the numismatic press.

    I'm glad Mr. Blakesley will get the recognition he deserves.
     
  21. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Joe -

    Sorry for the delay in replying to the posts above. ( I don't read these threads over the weekend)

    Yes, of course you can use what I've said on any of the forums -

    Yes, that's him, although my memory or him is 'younger' (no surprise)

    No, "Mickey" is not the name I heard 5+ decades ago - but if you're sure
    someone from his family said it was his Nickname, I can't say it wasn't -
    just that that word was never used at any of the two diff. club meetings over
    numerous years.

    I don't recall that Borrego Springs adresss, but I think that's a bit
    North, and inland, from the La Jolla area I mentioned previously.

    Hope this helps a bit....

    Fred
     
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