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<p>[QUOTE="MorganFred, post: 38875, member: 1779"]Very good points, longnine. However, I've had some raw coins which, to me, just showed no signs of cleaning or dipping at all (I'm usually OK detecting whizzed or polished surfaces), but when they've come back from PCGS, they've been bodybagged. I think one problem is that I just do not have enough slabbed coins with which to compare since the degree of luster for MS coins may vary from year to year within a series (Morgans in my instance) and I can't match them year-for-year. Whereas, at PCGS, they have thousands with which to compare, not to mention the years of experience. I swear sometimes, they can pick out a coin and label it cleaned if it got within ten feet of distilled water.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like you, with raw coins, I QUESTION EVERYTHING. Unless there is some compelling reason for me to do otherwise, I presume all raw Morgans on eBay have been cleaned at some point and I now won't buy unless the seller will accept a return if it comes back bodybagged by PCGS.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="MorganFred, post: 38875, member: 1779"]Very good points, longnine. However, I've had some raw coins which, to me, just showed no signs of cleaning or dipping at all (I'm usually OK detecting whizzed or polished surfaces), but when they've come back from PCGS, they've been bodybagged. I think one problem is that I just do not have enough slabbed coins with which to compare since the degree of luster for MS coins may vary from year to year within a series (Morgans in my instance) and I can't match them year-for-year. Whereas, at PCGS, they have thousands with which to compare, not to mention the years of experience. I swear sometimes, they can pick out a coin and label it cleaned if it got within ten feet of distilled water. Like you, with raw coins, I QUESTION EVERYTHING. Unless there is some compelling reason for me to do otherwise, I presume all raw Morgans on eBay have been cleaned at some point and I now won't buy unless the seller will accept a return if it comes back bodybagged by PCGS.[/QUOTE]
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