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<p>[QUOTE="MorganFred, post: 28200, member: 1779"]First post, long-time lurker, not a newbie but need polish (npi). Not a new thread, but the old ones from a search lacked the images.</p><p><br /></p><p>I took a chance and won this auction:</p><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3947012791" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3947012791" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3947012791</a> , a raw 1890-CC Morgan advertised as MS-63. I'm less an investor and more of a collector, so I don't mind paying top dollar as long as I get something approximating what I think I'm bidding on. I usually knock off at least a couple grades on raw eBay Morgans, but generally have pretty good luck with my purchases since I scrutinize feedback, am picky about the coins upon which I bid, and contact the sellesr before bidding. With this Morgan, the issue is in doubt.</p><p><br /></p><p>The seller had a few too many neg feedbacks with several on whizzed coins and had no stated return policy, sooooooo... I emailed her and asked if the Morgan had been cleaned or was otherwise a problem coin, and asked if she had a return policy. Her answer: "COIN IS ALL ORIGINAL." (no qualifications); no answer on her return policy. I still took a chance.</p><p><br /></p><p>I got my (latex gloved) hands on the coin earlier this evening (it's now 0100 MST) and it ain't gonna make MS-63 by PCGS and NGC standards; if it's not altered, it might make MS-60/61, maybe even MS-62 if I catch PCGS on a good hair day. But what's fishy is its luster - it cartwheels, but just doesn't seem right; it's kind of a flat cartwheel. I've compared it with some of my PCGS and NGC MS-61 and 62 Morgans and it's close, but not exact. But, no signs of whizzing under a 6X magnifier, but seems to have too much luster for a dipped coin. I don't have another MS 1890-CC with which to compare.</p><p><br /></p><p>Can a dipped, whizzed, or other enhancement altered Morgan still cartwheel or have luster, weak as it might be if it's done with finesse? Any way I can tell for sure before I send it in (nearest dealer is 110 miles away; sorry, not an option)? Opinions based on the eBay pics? (I know - almost impossible to tell anything from an image).</p><p><br /></p><p>No sense scanning it myself although I might try tomorrow if the thread warrants; her pics (off a SONY "MAVICA") are better than anything I can do. Maybe she's right; it just might be original. Well, I'll find out when I get it back from PCGS; there's always ANACS. If it's truly a problem coin, it won't be the first and won't be the last on which I got burnt. But, I really would like the Forum's thoughts and suggestions.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, I like this Forum much better than the eBay coins forum: much easier navigation. It's also nice to see familiar usernames, and see some new ones (incl AC6H de K2FRD/VO2FS). More professional also IMNSHO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tnx de Fred[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="MorganFred, post: 28200, member: 1779"]First post, long-time lurker, not a newbie but need polish (npi). Not a new thread, but the old ones from a search lacked the images. I took a chance and won this auction: [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3947012791[/url] , a raw 1890-CC Morgan advertised as MS-63. I'm less an investor and more of a collector, so I don't mind paying top dollar as long as I get something approximating what I think I'm bidding on. I usually knock off at least a couple grades on raw eBay Morgans, but generally have pretty good luck with my purchases since I scrutinize feedback, am picky about the coins upon which I bid, and contact the sellesr before bidding. With this Morgan, the issue is in doubt. The seller had a few too many neg feedbacks with several on whizzed coins and had no stated return policy, sooooooo... I emailed her and asked if the Morgan had been cleaned or was otherwise a problem coin, and asked if she had a return policy. Her answer: "COIN IS ALL ORIGINAL." (no qualifications); no answer on her return policy. I still took a chance. I got my (latex gloved) hands on the coin earlier this evening (it's now 0100 MST) and it ain't gonna make MS-63 by PCGS and NGC standards; if it's not altered, it might make MS-60/61, maybe even MS-62 if I catch PCGS on a good hair day. But what's fishy is its luster - it cartwheels, but just doesn't seem right; it's kind of a flat cartwheel. I've compared it with some of my PCGS and NGC MS-61 and 62 Morgans and it's close, but not exact. But, no signs of whizzing under a 6X magnifier, but seems to have too much luster for a dipped coin. I don't have another MS 1890-CC with which to compare. Can a dipped, whizzed, or other enhancement altered Morgan still cartwheel or have luster, weak as it might be if it's done with finesse? Any way I can tell for sure before I send it in (nearest dealer is 110 miles away; sorry, not an option)? Opinions based on the eBay pics? (I know - almost impossible to tell anything from an image). No sense scanning it myself although I might try tomorrow if the thread warrants; her pics (off a SONY "MAVICA") are better than anything I can do. Maybe she's right; it just might be original. Well, I'll find out when I get it back from PCGS; there's always ANACS. If it's truly a problem coin, it won't be the first and won't be the last on which I got burnt. But, I really would like the Forum's thoughts and suggestions. BTW, I like this Forum much better than the eBay coins forum: much easier navigation. It's also nice to see familiar usernames, and see some new ones (incl AC6H de K2FRD/VO2FS). More professional also IMNSHO. Tnx de Fred[/QUOTE]
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