Whized

And did you bother looking at what is actually in his hands? That ain't a coin, now is it?

Again, and I mean no offense with this or anything I've said, but please take the time to educate yourself or just ask if you need help. You're a nice guy and I'm certainly not saying this to be an ass. Regardless of your reason for posting the most recent photo, you're again putting forth something that could easily be confusing to new collectors and lead them to misunderstanding what whizzing really is.

 

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Actually, it was addressed to me.... all is well though; I knew what you meant and was just trying to bust your chops a bit.

 

It's a die, right? So that's how die polish lines are created?

 

I believe so... but has absolutely nothing to do with whizzing or whizzed coins; something our friend the marine, with all due respect, apparently fails to understand.

 

The ANA in fact puts whizzing in its own separate purgatory and distinguishes whizzing from cleaning as "whizzing" is listed under the category of "Processing, Polishing, and other Mistreatment of Coins" which is separate and distinct from "cleaning. What I have stated below pertains to discussing what Whizzing is defined as which is the use of a rotating wire brush (I believe it's done a high speed - with a dremel type tool).

Whizzed / Whizzing
This is a harsh cleaning technique that uses a wire brush in order to simulate mint luster. This technique was used in the 60’s and 70’s to fool the uneducated buyer. "Whizzed" coins are not certifiable and very difficult to sell. [www.reedededge.com/numismaticglossaryUZ.php]Whizzed / Whizzing

Whizzed coins are a big problem in the coin market. Whizzed coins are coins that have their surfaces abrasively damaged usually by a high speed wire brush attachment usually on a rotating device such as a Dremel. The wire brush pushes the metal in the direction the brush is turning.

 

@usmc60 Now you are making some sense. However, in spite of what some say, whizzing IS NOT cleaning.

 

Umm... you do realize he simply copied and pasted it from other websites, right?

With that said, it is a marked improvement though, and the fact he's taken time to research is certainly worthy of a heart-felt kudos.

 

I assUme he at least read what he posted.

 

Here... you don't want the fuzz to come down on you for not citing your sources:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1331499

http://www.numismaticassets.com/content.aspx?ctid=5328

https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=209647659065793&story_fbid=556145504416005

 

Okay you force my hand. To you to wannabes. Your eyes are open but yet you can't see, if you haven't got it by now you never will. We can throw links around and post definitions until the cows do not want to come home there is a multitude of whizz definitions. It boils down to interpretation, and in this thread's case word association. And I'm sure Dr. Phil would give you a F-in word association. And of course I do not expect you to get this either. (Because you just don't get it) and you two are prime examples of when someone does not understand something. But Brooks I will say you did identify the die in Tom's hand, you move from a F- TO A F yes Brooks Tom has a die not a coin. But what you failed to explain to the member, everything he does to the die affects the outlook of what the coin looks like. So he has the best advantage over other whizzed Counterfeiters he's able to affect that outlook of a coin by what he does with the die Before it becomes a coin. (And that's a fact Jack) and everything Tom does to a die falls under whizzed categories definition. And Brooks unlike you I do give credit to people. To use their judgment. And hope they can see a wannabes. And Brooks you and insider are a prime example of an online form wannabes. I just recently read an article in Numismatic News about all the experts that follow coin forms, and how hard it is for them not to get involved in discussions. Because of all the self appointed experts. And the BS advice they give people. (The wannabes)\V/

 

This post (#51) reminds me of one of my favorite Saturday Night Live skits. First, the female news anchor would give her opinion of a story. When she finished, the male anchor would give his opinion starting with: "Jane, you ignor...

I cannot wait to tell the coin club that US Mint dies are whizzed

 

In a court of law they would be found guilty of whizzing dies by definition. You still don't get it.

 

Okay, genius; you do realize that I, in my supposed self-appointed expertise, simply posted NEUTRAL LINKS in order to counter to BS of you and others, don't you? Opps, apparently not as here you are continuing to spew nonsense and make potentially harmful claims. Any idiot should be able to comprehend that "a whizzed COIN" is a WHIZZED COIN, meaning the COIN, not the die, has been whizzed, but apparently I've given you too much credit. You're even countering you own copy and paste post, for Christ's sake; does this honestly make sense to you?

All this continued diatribe has done is to prove, removing any reasonable doubt from the conversation, that the posting of the OP coin wasn't this joke you claimed it to be, but the ramblings of a fool too stubborn to admit it accept the fact he talks of what he does not know/understand. It's the same with much of what you post here, and is why others have called you out on it; you're not the clueless harmless individual you come across as, but a danger to those who don't know any better and are unfortunate enough to buy into your drivel. You are one of the clueless self-appointed experts you're condemning! Again, the ONLY reason the horribly offending links were posted was to counter another misleading and poor example of "whizzing" made to the forum and not to argue nonsense with you or anyone else. Someone who claims to care so much about the budding collector should understand this, but no. This is ridiculous!

Oh, and what is done to a die indeed effects the coins struck with it, but again, it doesn't matter here because we're talking about WHIZZED COINS....coins, not dies, that have been, as you put it, "whizzed".

And no... I don't get your "Dr. Phil" references; shame on me! Oh, and "has an advantage over other whizzed counterfeiters"? Oy!

 

@usmc60 What is the MAJOR CHARACTERISTIC of a whizzed coin that determines that is WHIZZED and not polished, harshly cleaned, buffed, or anything else.

ANSWER:________________. Well,_______?

Now, show me a die that's been POLISHED (as you have shown at the Mint) that has that universal CHARACTERISTIC of whizzing. I'll save us all the wait. THEY DON'T EXIST because dies are not whizzed.

Words mean something and often have specific definitions. Unfortunately, the only person who may not get it is "Jane" in Post#52. Lesson over .

BTW, If you care, the answer is all over the Internet, in books, and in columns, and taught in authentication and grading seminars. PM, me if you cannot find it.

 

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This reminds me of a "tag team" wrestling match I saw in a movie. Two guys were fighting with a Zombie .