Which VAM is my 1904 O Morgan Dollar?

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  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Good evening everyone -

    I have this 1904 O Morgan Dollar with some serious clashing on both obverse and reverse. Problem is, I can't seem to match it exactlyto a VAM:

    Started with VAM-4B
    VAM-4B Rusty Fish Hook

    My coin:
    *does have the severe clashing around the lips and neck
    *does have strong clashing on the reverse by IN
    *does have strong clashing by the viewer's left wreath
    *doesn't have the Spiked 1 in the date
    *doesn't have the doubled 9 in the date
    *doesn't have the filled 4 in the date
    *doesn't have the clash by the hair's edge
    *doesn't have an obvious rim cud by PLURIBUS (which 4B doesn't have to have)
    *doesn't have the die polish lines in the eagle's wings
    *the reverse pitting by DOLLAR doesn't match my coin (honestly, my coin looks more like pitting from PVC damage, not raised bumps)

    So, I moved on to 35B:
    VAM-35B

    My coin:
    *does have the matching die cracks around the date, bridge of nose (along with clashing), and eagle's right wing
    BUT
    *doesn't have the parallel die gouges above A in DOLLAR, which is the primary die marker

    So, I checked VAM 35A
    VAM-35A

    My coin:
    *does seem to match all the clashes shown
    *doesn't have the rim cud by PLURIBUS

    So, which VAM is my coin? Can anyone help? I feel like I've looked around a lot and maybe am at the point where someone more experienced could help out. THANKS!

    I've taken LOTS of pictures, here are some IMGUR links:

    Whole coin:
    https://i.imgur.com/Wj3tiTJ.jpg
    Profile:
    https://i.imgur.com/Vpq2PB2.png
    https://i.imgur.com/FE6XJAs.png
    Neck:
    https://i.imgur.com/djuhBtA.png
    https://i.imgur.com/ztBW26g.png
    Cap:
    https://i.imgur.com/Oi8PEJp.png
    Date:
    https://i.imgur.com/khobkii.png
    PLURIBUS:
    https://i.imgur.com/DbY6nst.png
    IN:
    https://i.imgur.com/9w1RNyG.png
    Branches:
    https://i.imgur.com/OVrMrEL.png
    DOLLAR:
    https://i.imgur.com/puDV6XU.png
    Arrow Tips:
    https://i.imgur.com/XQUlBne.png
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I'll be back in the morning .
    Keep in mind, it has the C4 reverse ...
     
  4. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Well, it's the morning .
    Make sure not to miss the scribbling by the eagle feet, wreath, and anywhere else in that area ...
     
  5. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I do have the scribbling by the eagle's feet...
     
  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I should be able to check tonight. Scribbling is only relevant for 1921. The patches of parallel lines you see is die polishing, which is different. While this can be helpful, it's not the main thing to look at when attributing a coin. Start with the date and mint mark position. For 1904-O, there are some doubled profiles, as well. The date has been studied thoroughly, so it should be possible to attribute, assuming the pictures you provided are clear (I'll have to wait until I get home to look at photos on imgur).
     
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  7. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I would say it's a VAM-35a pre-rim cud
     
  8. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    Still looks like 35b
    The "AR" and give us a picture please
    thx
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2019
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