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<p>[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 2356272, member: 2100"]IMO, NGC has more experience with tokens and thus is likely better than the other tpgs, but that still does not necessarily mean they do an excellent job. I will admit up front that I am no fan of any of the tpgs. I would say that your best chance for receiving a correct cwt attribution would be to send your tokens to the Civil War Token Society. They only charge a nominal fee, and I am sure it would be far less than tpg costs. Most CW and HT tokens are not all that hard to identify if you have the proper references. For tokens such as the one you listed as 239/421a (possibly die 422), a look in the back of the Patriotic Civil War Tokens book at the Die-A-Gram section pretty much walks you thru the process of determining die identification by pointing out the main features to look for when comparing dies. Your token in question did use die 422.</p><p><br /></p><p>When NGC first started slabbing cwts, I kept records on their attribution mistakes regarding cwts I saw for sale on ebay. Initially, those batches of cwts had error attribution rates typically in the 10% to 25% range. Pretty pathetic track record IMO. Have they improved? I would imagine, as I felt many of the errors they made were due to lack of experience. I really can not answer if they are better today though, as I now tend to ignore just about all slabbed tokens. I can get tremendously better deals on raw examples, so I don't even waste my time looking at slabbed tokens anymore. </p><p><br /></p><p>It seems that so many current ebay auctions, for example, have a $15 token encased in plastic with an asking price of $150-$200 for it. Since ebay is a large venue for token sales, I have to disagree with your thought that the slabbed token prices are reflective of the token itself rather than the slab its in. My opinion is that token slabs are primarily used as a marketing tool, often to maximize profits to the point of being obscene.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 2356272, member: 2100"]IMO, NGC has more experience with tokens and thus is likely better than the other tpgs, but that still does not necessarily mean they do an excellent job. I will admit up front that I am no fan of any of the tpgs. I would say that your best chance for receiving a correct cwt attribution would be to send your tokens to the Civil War Token Society. They only charge a nominal fee, and I am sure it would be far less than tpg costs. Most CW and HT tokens are not all that hard to identify if you have the proper references. For tokens such as the one you listed as 239/421a (possibly die 422), a look in the back of the Patriotic Civil War Tokens book at the Die-A-Gram section pretty much walks you thru the process of determining die identification by pointing out the main features to look for when comparing dies. Your token in question did use die 422. When NGC first started slabbing cwts, I kept records on their attribution mistakes regarding cwts I saw for sale on ebay. Initially, those batches of cwts had error attribution rates typically in the 10% to 25% range. Pretty pathetic track record IMO. Have they improved? I would imagine, as I felt many of the errors they made were due to lack of experience. I really can not answer if they are better today though, as I now tend to ignore just about all slabbed tokens. I can get tremendously better deals on raw examples, so I don't even waste my time looking at slabbed tokens anymore. It seems that so many current ebay auctions, for example, have a $15 token encased in plastic with an asking price of $150-$200 for it. Since ebay is a large venue for token sales, I have to disagree with your thought that the slabbed token prices are reflective of the token itself rather than the slab its in. My opinion is that token slabs are primarily used as a marketing tool, often to maximize profits to the point of being obscene.[/QUOTE]
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