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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2355830, member: 46237"]Yes. You may or may not need to provide supporting evidence, depending on how obvious the error is.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No. You can list your own attributions etc. on your submission form, and this may increase the chances of the attribution being what you want, but ultimately NGC verifies it and makes the call. I've had them change attributions I had listed in cases where they either changed how they identified the coin/token, and in cases where they simply didn't agree with me.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, that token I mentioned in my above post just happens to have been one that they changed my attribution on, and I had to argue with them to get them to change it back to what I had listed on the submission form. I had listed the token as Ferdinand V Coronation 1830, but NGC wanted to attribute it as Ferdinand I (his Austrian title), since Hungarian <i>coins</i> from this period are considered to be Austrian. While this approach works fine for coins, it doesn't always work for tokens, since there are many distinctly Hungarian tokens from this period. In this case, the token was for a Hungarian coronation and the legend read "Ferd. V" (his Hungarian title).</p><p><br /></p><p>I pointed out to them that he was not known as Ferdinand I until he succeeded his father in <i>1835</i> as Emperor of Austria. Since in 1830 when the jeton was struck, he was exclusively known as Ferdinand V, they changed the attribution to what I wanted. I had submitted supporting evidence as well as the NGC cert number of another similar jeton that they attributed to Ferdinand V to show that they had done this correctly before. While they accepted my argument and attributed the token with his Hungarian title, they still labelled it as Austrian (you can't win everything). All of this was done back and forth in emails to customer service while they had the token.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>NGC does not guarantee the value difference <i>of the coin itself</i> if they make a mistake on a variety attribution. Meaning if you bought a common variety coin because it had a rare variety attribution on the label, and paid the value of the rare variety, their guarantee won't cover the difference between the price of the rare variety versus the common one.</p><p><br /></p><p>If, however, you sent that same coin back to them and pointed out that the wrong variety was on the label, they will fix the label for free. You don't pay anything, including postage. I've done this several times and it's quick and painless.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2355830, member: 46237"]Yes. You may or may not need to provide supporting evidence, depending on how obvious the error is. No. You can list your own attributions etc. on your submission form, and this may increase the chances of the attribution being what you want, but ultimately NGC verifies it and makes the call. I've had them change attributions I had listed in cases where they either changed how they identified the coin/token, and in cases where they simply didn't agree with me. For example, that token I mentioned in my above post just happens to have been one that they changed my attribution on, and I had to argue with them to get them to change it back to what I had listed on the submission form. I had listed the token as Ferdinand V Coronation 1830, but NGC wanted to attribute it as Ferdinand I (his Austrian title), since Hungarian [I]coins[/I] from this period are considered to be Austrian. While this approach works fine for coins, it doesn't always work for tokens, since there are many distinctly Hungarian tokens from this period. In this case, the token was for a Hungarian coronation and the legend read "Ferd. V" (his Hungarian title). I pointed out to them that he was not known as Ferdinand I until he succeeded his father in [I]1835[/I] as Emperor of Austria. Since in 1830 when the jeton was struck, he was exclusively known as Ferdinand V, they changed the attribution to what I wanted. I had submitted supporting evidence as well as the NGC cert number of another similar jeton that they attributed to Ferdinand V to show that they had done this correctly before. While they accepted my argument and attributed the token with his Hungarian title, they still labelled it as Austrian (you can't win everything). All of this was done back and forth in emails to customer service while they had the token. NGC does not guarantee the value difference [I]of the coin itself[/I] if they make a mistake on a variety attribution. Meaning if you bought a common variety coin because it had a rare variety attribution on the label, and paid the value of the rare variety, their guarantee won't cover the difference between the price of the rare variety versus the common one. If, however, you sent that same coin back to them and pointed out that the wrong variety was on the label, they will fix the label for free. You don't pay anything, including postage. I've done this several times and it's quick and painless.[/QUOTE]
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