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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;coppermania, post: 1108512, member: 18304&quot;]I&#039;ve submitted to both and I have settled on NGC. PCGS was body bagging my toned copper and NGC seems to respect it more and gives it an honest grade. My friends and I have never had a problem at NGC. I also like that NGC has allowed both services into their Registry program where PCGS has not. NGC graders are also not able to deal in coins while they are employed by NGC which is fair, as that would be just like printing money. Overall I see an elitist mentality with PCGS and its fan base and I try not to support that. Somehow they have sold a &quot;better than&quot; package to the collecting public but it isn&#039;t necessarily so. If you have a great coin, it will say so in any holder. I&#039;m not saying PCGS is the devil, as I&#039;m sure they deserve respect for their numismatic contributions, and I will buy coins in PCGS holders, but I let others do the bleeding for me. JMO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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