Which one and why? 1964 Jefferson Nickel

I disagree Paul and here's why

Sheer volume. The number of graded 1964 nickels in proportion to the total mintage is minuscule.

So many people have dismissed this date due to the high mintages that I don't think that it has been very well examined and IMHO high grade examples exist raw and undiscovered.

I understand that the Jefferson series throughout the entire 1950s and 60s is plagued by poor strikes and bad hubs. These things aside, there are millions upon millions of rolls of 1964 coin that have never seen the light of day. I think that as they get searched there will be enough of a population at what is currently the high end (MS-66 and 67) to keep the prices relatively low.

In essence, I think that there are statistically going to be a higher number of MS-whatever coins because the mintage is so darned high. The market will finally force the undiscovered coins out of hiding before the price will increase much more.

 

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I got #1 right (per NGC), but I still do not like those weak reverses. I wasn't too far off on #2, but there is something about your photography hat makes it look "polished" for lack of a better word. But, I am sorry, rare or not, that does not mean I have to like them.

 

Exactly what year is it going to be that people realize that there are not thousands of rolls of premium gem uncirculated 1964 in existence. The number of premium gems currently graded should tell you all you need to know about how many of these coins exist in this grade.

If you don't believe me, first try to find a BU unsearched roll of 1964 Jeffs. Once you have done that, search the roll and tell me how many you think are going to grade MS66+. If you find one, I will be impressed.

 

In this entire thread, nobody mentioned one rather obvious thing. I have posted hundreds of coins on this forum. Everyone should recognize my photo style by now. Everyone should also recognize that the photo of Coin #2 does not match my photo style. The photo is a Bowers & Merena photo and I don't even have the coin yet. I posted this thread as soon as the auction ended.

I highly doubt that the coin will look like that in hand and I expect the colors to be somewhat subdued but actually more attractive. Those photos do not represent reality IMO. Once I have the coin, I will post my photos of the coin which I am sure will be more flattering in a much more realistic way.

Good goin Dick, I give you an A- for this exercise. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that many of your classmates will be joining you for graduation.

 

Paul,

any date other than 1964, I might give in, but they made 1964 coins for almost a year and a half. There are still tons of unsearched rolls of 1964 dated coins and yes, I think that there are MS-66+ coins within those rolls.

I could be wrong as well, but statistically, I think it will bear itself out and only time will tell.

 

An interesting exercise, I have read thru the thread already, but just for kicks I chose nickel #2, and being a registry set collector I spent the whole roll on it. I really like the toning on that coin, very unique, I also would not mind strangling the axe man who played Paul Bunyon on Thomas J. I rarely see strikes that nice except on proofs.

It makes me want to fish out my fathers nickel album, for some reason he filled one album all with 1964 nickels,

Weird, my memory of it was wrong, one page is all 62 and 63 jeffs, a row of war nickels that are very circulated, actually only 7 64 jeffs. they all seem to have that orange peel look on them.

I have only been collecting for about a year, I wonder why my Father kept some things. Eventually if I keep reading informative threads like this maybe I will figure it out.

 

Whomever submitted those certainly got lucky. How #2 got an ms66* with deep hit on the chin is beyond me. 5000 $ plus for a 64 jeff? not this guy. Id laugh about it even for $500. I think this registry set craze is officially out of control.

 

While I fear that resurrecting this thread may cause another few pages of bickering, I feel obligated to post my photos of the second coin to see if anyone wants to change their mind.

Coin #1: 1964 Jefferson Nickel NGC MS67 (Pop 7/0) $400



Coin #2: 1964 Jefferson Nickel NGC MS66* (Pop 1/0) $100



Personally, I am torn. While I like the eye appeal and strike of the second coin, it obviously has more hits than the first coin and IMO is a market graded MS65. I think I am going to have to sleep on it.

 

Nope not changing my mind
Although your photos do the coin justice in my opinion!

 

Very nice 1964*w/ great eye appeal and a very low pop for Ngc
Do you know what Pcgs pop is? here the price guide.I would think it would get the new Pcgs+ grade. but with Pcgs one never know what they will grade it
www.pcgs.com/prices/PriceGuideDetail.aspx?MS=1&PR=1&SP=1&c=84&title=Jefferson+Nickel
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let not dig up the past !

 

I have not changed my mind either. BTW, your pictures still look like they have a different balance/lighting. I believe the brightness on #2 emphasizes the hits and nicks.

#2 still looks like a 65 at most.
#2 still has more detail than #1
I still prefer #2 - not because of the color but because of the extra detail.

 

hello Paul, (IMO) I would have to go by the Quality/and High-Grade of these coins. # 1 all the way!

 

My 2 cents

The MS-67 very nice + top pop!!!
:kewl:but the MS-65 is classier to me !

 

both coins are def. above average but niether is a true wow coin..so therefore going with coin #2