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<p>[QUOTE="lkeigwin, post: 1176005, member: 30400"]Thanks for playing. Some good information and guesses. As I said in the OP, sometimes it's a crapshoot with TPG grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>The answer is: only the 1895 Barber quarter graded cleanly at PCGS. It was in an old ANACS holder, PF60. PCGS bumped it to PR61 in a cross. This coin was recently used by the NGC forum in a coin photography contest, for any of you who thought it looked familiar. I may have posted it on this forum too.</p><p><br /></p><p>Quite a few of you guessed correctly. 900fine gave a good, early guess. I think Eric0911 said it first.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the rest of the story, if you are interested.</p><p>Lance.</p><p><br /></p><p>1809 Capped Bust Half</p><p>I thought this was a long shot but I tried anyway. It has no hairlines but was obviously cleaned at one time, possibly more than once. It has been toning over so the cleaning was some time ago. Occasionally PCGS is more forgiving with early Mint coins. But not so often when damage is perceived intentional.</p><p><br /></p><p>1873 Indian Head Cent</p><p>This was purchased last fall from Eagle Eye Coins. Many of you know Rick Snow, his reputation and books on Flying Eagles and IHCs, his photo certification program, his variety numbering standard. When I told him PCGS body bagged the coin for "questionable color" he exploded in frustration. And then he graciously accepted a return; I bought a 1794 large cent from Rick instead.</p><p><br /></p><p>1875-S 20c piece</p><p>This piece was actually graded at one time by ANACS as MS60 (old, small holder). PCGS would not accept a cross at any grade and returned it "altered surfaces". I cracked it, did an acetone dip, and below is the result (before and after). The toning dissolved because it was organic, not natural. Some doctor tried to conceal a slightly stained and lifeless surface with artificial toning. Actually he tried and succeeded in fooling ANACS (and me, as I bought it). I sold it to my local B&M for a significant loss. We both agree the coin wasn't close to MS60, either.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20cANACSMS60obv.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20cANACSMS60rev.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20cobv.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20crev.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>1921 Peace dollar</p><p>I figured this one would BB but I had a free submission and nothing to send in. Faint cleaning hairlines can be seen on eagle and Liberty at certain angles. PCGS bagged it as "improperly cleaned". No whizzing was done. It may have been dipped at one time. But not in the ten years I've had it. I carried it as a pocket piece for a long time which may help explain its appearance.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lkeigwin, post: 1176005, member: 30400"]Thanks for playing. Some good information and guesses. As I said in the OP, sometimes it's a crapshoot with TPG grading. The answer is: only the 1895 Barber quarter graded cleanly at PCGS. It was in an old ANACS holder, PF60. PCGS bumped it to PR61 in a cross. This coin was recently used by the NGC forum in a coin photography contest, for any of you who thought it looked familiar. I may have posted it on this forum too. Quite a few of you guessed correctly. 900fine gave a good, early guess. I think Eric0911 said it first. Here's the rest of the story, if you are interested. Lance. 1809 Capped Bust Half I thought this was a long shot but I tried anyway. It has no hairlines but was obviously cleaned at one time, possibly more than once. It has been toning over so the cleaning was some time ago. Occasionally PCGS is more forgiving with early Mint coins. But not so often when damage is perceived intentional. 1873 Indian Head Cent This was purchased last fall from Eagle Eye Coins. Many of you know Rick Snow, his reputation and books on Flying Eagles and IHCs, his photo certification program, his variety numbering standard. When I told him PCGS body bagged the coin for "questionable color" he exploded in frustration. And then he graciously accepted a return; I bought a 1794 large cent from Rick instead. 1875-S 20c piece This piece was actually graded at one time by ANACS as MS60 (old, small holder). PCGS would not accept a cross at any grade and returned it "altered surfaces". I cracked it, did an acetone dip, and below is the result (before and after). The toning dissolved because it was organic, not natural. Some doctor tried to conceal a slightly stained and lifeless surface with artificial toning. Actually he tried and succeeded in fooling ANACS (and me, as I bought it). I sold it to my local B&M for a significant loss. We both agree the coin wasn't close to MS60, either. [IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20cANACSMS60obv.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20cANACSMS60rev.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20cobv.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg37/lkeigwin/1875-S20crev.jpg[/IMG] 1921 Peace dollar I figured this one would BB but I had a free submission and nothing to send in. Faint cleaning hairlines can be seen on eagle and Liberty at certain angles. PCGS bagged it as "improperly cleaned". No whizzing was done. It may have been dipped at one time. But not in the ten years I've had it. I carried it as a pocket piece for a long time which may help explain its appearance.[/QUOTE]
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