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Message:: [QUOTE="Brett_in_Sacto, post: 2435631, member: 71510"]Both my dealer and I have cracked the coin out - in fact it was in a 64 holder and we found plastic residue in the edge of the rim when we pulled it out of the 64 holder - which is why we pulled it out after NGC body-bagged it (red dot of doom). And I do implicitly trust my dealer.  He's an ex-PCGS grader and is a "lifer" numismatist. It never should have gone into a holder with the residue on it.  PCGS screwed the pooch on this one - but it's a solid 64 coin, borderline 65 with a weaker strike (it's an SF Peace Dollar, they were weak strikes in general). We sent it back to NGC a second time and it came back a 63.  Third a 63+. Scratches on the reverse are on the slab - not the coin. Right now the coin is raw, and so is my bum from both companies.  PCGS for grading a coin with residue on it and NGC for lowballing it. I am still debating where it's going to go for re-grade since it's raw, but I am seriously considering another run with NGC because they do have a much tougher standard on Peace Dollars.  They really badger the SF coins for the strike - and it should be taken into consideration IMHO. [ATTACH=full]506637[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]506638[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]