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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2435518, member: 1892"]Well, I can proceed in blissful ignorance because I have the apparent offender on Ignore and didn't see any of what has incensed everyone so much. Therefore, I can think of the bigger picture - a lot of people who deserve better than to read only a bunch of sniping and maybe deserve some actual content. This thread has 68 posts and 817 reads; as usual, only a small percentage of those reading are actually participating. </p><p><br /></p><p>Lehigh96's images, albeit sharp and clear, are too small to identify specifically areas of moved metal which are characteristic of whizzing. Another important - although not universal - whizzing characteristic <b>is</b> present to the informed observer even in small images like these.</p><p><br /></p><p>We can all see the "too shiny" areas in the fields (especially for the level of wear) and the lack of finish contrast between the bust and adjacent fields which are hallmarks of a cleaned coin. That's plain. In this case, though, it's important to notice how little of that applied, smooth finish reaches the tighter areas, and just how "large" those "tighter areas" are. Whizzing, by definition, employs a larger tool than other cleaning methods, and a major characteristic of a whizzed coin (at least, one done with a half-hearted attempt at informed, deliberate deception like this example) is that the damage/effect will usually be limited to the widest-open areas of the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>None of the "shiny" on Lehigh96's coin reaches the rim, or areas like underneath the hair ribbon, around the date, or above the head on the obverse. On the reverse, look amongst the stars and under the MM and arrows. See the marks? Those are what the whizzing was intended to eliminate, but the polishing wheel couldn't reach them without severely damaging the adjacent device details so the miscreant stayed away from them.</p><p><br /></p><p>And <b><i>that's</i> the lesser-known hallmark of whizzing</b> - no marks on the open fields - where you'd most expect them - yet marks remaining in the places the whizzing tool couldn't reach. It's also the difference between whizzing and mechanical cleaning like brushing and polishing. You whiz a coin to remove <i>marks</i>, not to remove <i>crud</i>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2435518, member: 1892"]Well, I can proceed in blissful ignorance because I have the apparent offender on Ignore and didn't see any of what has incensed everyone so much. Therefore, I can think of the bigger picture - a lot of people who deserve better than to read only a bunch of sniping and maybe deserve some actual content. This thread has 68 posts and 817 reads; as usual, only a small percentage of those reading are actually participating. Lehigh96's images, albeit sharp and clear, are too small to identify specifically areas of moved metal which are characteristic of whizzing. Another important - although not universal - whizzing characteristic [B]is[/B] present to the informed observer even in small images like these. We can all see the "too shiny" areas in the fields (especially for the level of wear) and the lack of finish contrast between the bust and adjacent fields which are hallmarks of a cleaned coin. That's plain. In this case, though, it's important to notice how little of that applied, smooth finish reaches the tighter areas, and just how "large" those "tighter areas" are. Whizzing, by definition, employs a larger tool than other cleaning methods, and a major characteristic of a whizzed coin (at least, one done with a half-hearted attempt at informed, deliberate deception like this example) is that the damage/effect will usually be limited to the widest-open areas of the coin. None of the "shiny" on Lehigh96's coin reaches the rim, or areas like underneath the hair ribbon, around the date, or above the head on the obverse. On the reverse, look amongst the stars and under the MM and arrows. See the marks? Those are what the whizzing was intended to eliminate, but the polishing wheel couldn't reach them without severely damaging the adjacent device details so the miscreant stayed away from them. And [B][I]that's[/I] the lesser-known hallmark of whizzing[/B] - no marks on the open fields - where you'd most expect them - yet marks remaining in the places the whizzing tool couldn't reach. It's also the difference between whizzing and mechanical cleaning like brushing and polishing. You whiz a coin to remove [I]marks[/I], not to remove [I]crud[/I].[/QUOTE]
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