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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;SuperDave, post: 2434222, member: 1892&quot;]It may be - not wishing to give offense - that your relative newness to the hobby may have led you to overestimate a bit on some of them. Have you images of ones where you were beaten the hardest? We could possibly offer advice/instruction, or at least a little sympathy. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I would not be at all surprised if we ended up agreeing with your opinion, though - both of them have been applying the Customer Appreciation Flogging Stick with regularity lately.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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