Which company is the toughest grader NCG or PCGS?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Ollyoccia, Jun 1, 2016.

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Which company is the toughest grader NGC or PCGS?

Poll closed Jun 8, 2016.
  1. NGC

    27.6%
  2. PCGS

    72.4%
  1. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    I think that it depedends on the particular coin, I know that NGC is stricter with commeratives than PCGS is
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I deduct a standard $50 personal fee for cracking the coin out of its coffin. :) As an ancient collector I am not abnormal. I don't even bid on heritage auctions because I don't want the hassle, even at $50 less, of cracking out a bunch of coins.
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I used to like PCGS but now I'd go with NGC only because of their customer relations . PCGS is the worst at customer relations ANACS is best then NGC . ANACS seems to be getting better at their consistency but still lag behind in resale value . Hopefully that will change but until it does I'll stay with NGC .
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

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    I just wanted to let you know that I gave your hem.......oid a LIKE.

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  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Normally I would respond with my opinion but I've seen this can of worms get nasty most times. Too subjective a subject. I'm on the sidelines and y'all have a great day!;););)
     
  7. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Anybody wish to opine about which service is best for what US issue? (Not trying to start a war here):)
     
  8. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    During the olden days NGC was much tougher on gold than PCGS.
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Actually, during the "olden days" there was no NGC or PCGS. :grumpy: Perhaps Doug can tell us about the very, very olden days. :smuggrin:
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    There are a lot more people on this board other than Doug who remember pre-slab collecting. I might be one of the youngest, but I remember it.
     
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  11. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I remember it, but I was a lad in those days.
     
  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I remember it but was young too
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Along with many, my brother..........:)
     
  14. Ollyoccia

    Ollyoccia Member

    Thanks Dave you always explain it in a way that helps me understand
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    And I'm a damn site older than you.......:)
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Dave lives in Philly and likes the Flyers.......
     
  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    In my opinion I think ngc more consistent. Pcgs better in other things lately I like pcgs better for toners And good original seated and bust coins. Ngc far better with early copper pcgs for gold. Ngc real tough on any kind of a scratch or dig but more likely to give a Retoned old dip a pass. Pcgs loves to detail coins for cleaning qc or enviro damage
     
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  18. Ollyoccia

    Ollyoccia Member

    Thanks insidered I am more confused than anything. I am very much a novice and when I compare the coins I submitted to coins that are on ebay of the same variety mine appear to be in better shape and in some cases its not even close so I must be missing something. I will post so images.
     
  19. Ollyoccia

    Ollyoccia Member

    Thanks medoraman I have a follow up question I was hoping you could help me with. I have such a hard time determining if something has been whizzed or if the marks are just nature. Is there a sure way to tell? Same thing on the cleaning I have no idea how to tell if something is improperly cleaned...Thanks
     
  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Two good reasons for you not to take me at my word. :p

    Ollyoccia, you're working at an experience disadvantage at the moment. Much of what you wish to be able to identify requires hundreds and maybe thousands of examples of individual coins to get to the "on sight" level. In this day and age of exquisite digital imaging capabilities, a good portion of that experience can be gained via high-quality imagery, but not everybody shoots imagery of that quality. Worse, minor differences in lighting can cause a complete change in the "look" of a coin. And digital imaging is such that someone with great experience grading coins in-hand will inevitably undergrade digital images until they learn how harshly it can overexaggerate marks. It's a completely separate skill.

    And there's a third skill, that of evaluating less-than-perfect images.

    It's....complicated. :)
     
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  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Gotta love the 'Dave' take on things.........he's dead on though..........
     
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