Which 1915 $2.50 gold Indian is the better coin?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by micbraun, Jun 9, 2019.

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Grade?

Poll closed Jun 16, 2019.
  1. Coin #1 graded higher

    17.6%
  2. Both coins have the same grade and that’s ok

    11.8%
  3. Both coins have the same grade, but that’s not ok

    5.9%
  4. Coin #2 graded higher

    58.8%
  5. PCGS flipped a coin to determine the grade

    5.9%
  1. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    #2, cleaner fields and no deep scratches around the face compared to #1.
     
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  3. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    I like the look of #2 better. Couldn't make a grade judgement from these pictures though.
     
  4. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    I've been working on a lesser quality PCGS set of these and was the one that chose, same grade. MS 62 is where I'd have guessed each ended up at. Surprised that so many felt coin #2 is a grade better. Fields on #2 seem to have an equal # of distractions imo.
     
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  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random nobody...

    I’d bet both are graded AU-58, though it is difficult to say for sure from the photos.. However, the first one has more wear and the reverse has some distracting scratches. The second one has all-around better eye appeal.
     
  6. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I’ve already mentioned that they graded MS62, but AU58 would be reasonable too. Indian head gold is quite hard to grade due to the incuse design. Click below to look at the PCGS pictures:
    Coin #1
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36709575
    Coin #2
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36722285
     
  7. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

    I can see them graded at 62. I thought low ms on both but personally I’d have called them 58. I prefer the look of the second and feel that’s the higher end coin for the grade
     
  8. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    After a closer look on both coins I prefer the first coin purely of it's much better luster...I don't care about an extra scratch or an better Strike.....Luster counts for me!!!
    The Second coin looks Like someone operated with a kind of alcohol to clean the surface.
     
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  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Thanks guys for the feedback. It seems most of you like the second coin better, while only a few think the first coin is nicer. @C-B-D what do you think?
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D U.S. Type Coins or death!

    #1 has a better strike, but #2 doesn't have that cheek hit... I'd go #1.
     
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  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I fully agree with you, but be assured the luster is virtually identical on both coins. I’ve received the second coin this morning and personally think it’s a very nice AU62 ;-)
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's definitely number 1 for me. Less west in the headdress, feathers and hair ribbon.
     
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  13. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I like number one the best
     
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