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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1287888, member: 112"]I agree that all dies were made at Philly and the original mint marks punched in Philly. Conder agrees with this. However, where he and I differ is in regard to the over-mint mark varieties. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have read in numerous books where the over-mint mark was punched into the die at the branch mint.</p><p><br /></p><p>Conder claims this is not so, and cites as reason that the since dies are hardened after being finished, that the die would be too hard for it to be punched afterwards at the branch mint. And that the over-mint marks were also punched at Philly.</p><p><br /></p><p>Myself, I believe his own argument backs up my idea. Here's why. When the dies were made at Philly and mint marked, it would not be logical for them to leave those dies just sitting around, they would go ahead and harden them for use and shipment out. They would not keep them unhardened and wait and see if some other branch mint may need them.</p><p><br /></p><p>And given the cost to produce dies, nor would it be logical for a branch mint to keep extra unused dies on hand, when a different branch mint needs more. The logical thing to do would be for the mint with the extra dies to ship them to the branch mint that needed them.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the die being too hard to accept a mark from a punch, I don't buy that for an instant. Letter punches will easily mark even hardened steel.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I cannot quote a source as quite frankly I don't remember. I've read thousands of books and articles on coins. And while I can remember the information from them, I can't always recall exactly which book contained exactly which information. But I have most definitely read that the over-mint marks were produced at the branch mints themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>Conder does not agree with me. We leave it at that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1287888, member: 112"]I agree that all dies were made at Philly and the original mint marks punched in Philly. Conder agrees with this. However, where he and I differ is in regard to the over-mint mark varieties. I have read in numerous books where the over-mint mark was punched into the die at the branch mint. Conder claims this is not so, and cites as reason that the since dies are hardened after being finished, that the die would be too hard for it to be punched afterwards at the branch mint. And that the over-mint marks were also punched at Philly. Myself, I believe his own argument backs up my idea. Here's why. When the dies were made at Philly and mint marked, it would not be logical for them to leave those dies just sitting around, they would go ahead and harden them for use and shipment out. They would not keep them unhardened and wait and see if some other branch mint may need them. And given the cost to produce dies, nor would it be logical for a branch mint to keep extra unused dies on hand, when a different branch mint needs more. The logical thing to do would be for the mint with the extra dies to ship them to the branch mint that needed them. As for the die being too hard to accept a mark from a punch, I don't buy that for an instant. Letter punches will easily mark even hardened steel. Now I cannot quote a source as quite frankly I don't remember. I've read thousands of books and articles on coins. And while I can remember the information from them, I can't always recall exactly which book contained exactly which information. But I have most definitely read that the over-mint marks were produced at the branch mints themselves. Conder does not agree with me. We leave it at that.[/QUOTE]
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