Where one finds beauty

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Voulgaroktonou, Nov 14, 2020.

  1. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    I like to think I have some refinement of taste; after all, my music preferences run to Carolyn Arends, The Who, Tom Petty, The Beatles, Lou Reed, and of course, The Rolling Stones, and especially ANY solo work of Keith Richards and Pete Townshend, so why, oh why, do I find this ceremonial miliaresion of Constans II (654-659 AD) so beautiful? (first coin on top row) Constans, staring out at me with googly eyes through his immense beard, that earned him the nickname “Pogonatos” (likely in imitation of his grandfather Herakleios’ adaptation of the same facial fur, perhaps in recognition of his having in 627 defeated the Persian Chosroes II), then beside him, his son, Constantine IV, staring at me with the same googly eyes – is this fine art?

    For goodness sake, compare it with another numismatic product of Hellenism from a thousand years earlier, two didrachms of the Sicilian city of Acragas, with their obverse of a stately eagle, and a magnificent crab on the reverse. The first of these is dated ca. 480-470 BC, while the second is given to a decade earlier, ca. 488-478. And besides enjoying the beauty of the naturalistic engraving, showing them the other day to my grandson Aidan allowed me the joke of telling him, “Look Aidan, Papa has crabs!”, to which he was able to reply, “Do they itch?” I mean, how can a portrait of a Byzantine ZZ Top wanna-be stack up to those birds and crustaceans?

    Or take this sestertius of Roman emperor Trajan, struck ca. 112-115 AD. (first coin, bottom row) Its obverse features a grand imperial bust of the great soldier emperor from Roman Spain, under whom the empire reached its greatest territorial extent, while the reverse commemorates the acquisition of new territory, in this case the kingdom of Nabataea forming the new province of Arabia Petraea

    Or, another sestertius, with a noble imperial portrait, this of the emperor Trajan Decius, 249-251 AD. The reverse, announcing the “victory of the emperor” in hindsight is a little ironic, because Decius was killed by the Goths in battle in 251, which coincidentally, was also the last year of his reign.

    So, given the beauty or impressive appearance of these coins, and there could be thousands to add to the list, why do I love my somewhat cartoonish or perhaps a little grotesque Byzantine silver piece? Perhaps part of the reason can be that suggested by Susan, that I am just a little strange. However, I prefer to attribute my reasons to the sentiments Sappho offered in what has come down to us as her Fragment 16: “ο]ἰ μὲν ἰππήων στρότον οἰ δὲ πέσδων οἰ δὲ νάων φαῖσ᾿ ἐπ[ὶ] γᾶν μέλαι[ν]αν ἔ]μμεναι κάλλιστον, ἔγω δὲ κῆν᾿ ὄττω τις ἔραται·”

    “Some say a host of cavalry, others of infantry, and others of ships, is the most beautiful thing on the black earth, but I say it is whatsoever a person loves.” beauty.jpg
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    All beautiful coins! I love all my coins, too.
     
  4. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    And as I love all my dogs, too. Wait...one's a horse; no matter, I love him also. Also, one's my wife. I love her too. Had to add that last comment; she monitors these.... children 02.jpg .
     
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  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Voulgar., Your thread is an interesting commentary :happy:. We all have different taste in art & a collector whose taste is wide & varied is a good thing ;). Your 1st didrachm from Akragas is a true gem :jawdrop:, & the sestertius of Trajan is as fine as the come :cool:. I could live comfortably with both of those coins :rolleyes:.
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    While beauty can be found in all ages, there is also beauty found in all forms, including medals. I, too, like music from many generations. How about this combination!

    You Sexy Thing
    Hot Chocolate
    I believe in miracles
    Where're you from
    You sexy thing, sexy thing you
    MARIANNE BEFORE FRENCH SENATE.jpg
     
  7. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Most of the sites I find beauty on begin with several X's
     
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  8. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Nice selection of coins! I enjoy seeing this grouping as well.
     
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  9. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Taste, indeed, is Indisputable!
    Collect what you love and offer no excuses.
    J.T.
     
  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    We all have our own tastes. I'm sure a coin I find fascinating others would consider differently. To each their own. I like to think that coins were the newspapers of their day, a way of tying together the social fabric of the state, and communicating events, outcomes, hopes, and dreams. That's what is so special about collecting.
     
  11. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @J.T. Parker, thanks for the sage advice. As an incorrigable Early Medievalite, I'll try to remember it, next time!
     
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  12. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Shucks DVCKS,
    Never been called 'sage' before.
    Always thought of myself as more of a 'parsley' dude!
    J.T.
    Addendum: Especially envious of those 2 excellent Akragas pieces...Kudos
    to Voulgaroktonou!
     
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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Sorrel is good, too, along with collard greens. But Nope, for you, it's sage-burning time!
     
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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Oregano, thyme, basil, etc...all good
     
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  15. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...I will withold further elaboration....
     
  16. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Al. Yes, that is a great crab. I think my favorite series are the 15th c. Palaeologan stavrata; but they are an acquired taste!
     
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