Where & how to store your coins in a safe environment?.

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Absolutely !!
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are several impulse or heat sealers on the market - some of them can be viewed - HERE (scroll down to the bottom of the page). But if you use these things there is something you need to keep in mind.

    Anytime you use an airtight container to store your coins you have to be careful about temperature changes. Say your storage place for the coins has an average temp of 65 deg. (like in a metal safe ) - if you remove the coins and the room temp is 80 deg. - then condensation could form inside the airtight container and get on the coins.

    A non airtight coin holder allows the holder to breathe thus reducing the chances of condensation inside the holder. But any coin holder will be subject to condensation if it is subjected to rapid changes in temperature. That's why it is just as important to maintain consistent temperatures for coin storage as it to protect them from other elements like light and particulates in the air.
     
  4. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    safe place

    to gdjmsp: mine already kept for many years. i think some got contaminated. most are still look good. maybe i can not see it. should i put those silicon there?. or there is no more hope. just left it as it. or should i separate those containated from the good one?. since i will buy silicon and put it there together?. please help.. thanks again.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Coins should ALWAYS be stored with silica gel packs. But for the packs to do the job they are designed to do - the coins and silica packs must in some kind of container for the packs cannot absorb all the moisture in the air of a room. In other words - if you just store your coins in an open cardboard box with a silica pack inside - it won't do any good because the air in the room will circulate through the box as well.

    The best way I can describe the system is this. Coins should be in some sort of individual holder for each coin. Then the coins may be placed in small boxes or trays - and the small boxes or trays placed into a larger container like a safe, an ammo box, a Rubbermaid or Tupperware container etc - any kind of box that has lid that can be closed up & sealed. Silica packs do an excellent job of absorbing moisture in the air - but they HAVE TO BE used in small enclosed areas.

    Now - when you say some coins may be contaminated, what do you mean ? Contaminated by what ? Post a pic of a coin that you think is contaminated.
     
  6. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    safe place

    some contaminated with sticky surface. some with black spot. now my coins were mostly came with original capsule and box/sleeves. i put several coin with original box into 12" x 12" x 12" cartoon. and around 4 to 6 cartoon in one place. like room cabinet. so the question is how to put silicon pack there. is that one silicon pack put it beside those 4 cartoon. which were sealed by packing tape. or i have to put silicon pack inside each cartoon with those coins. one silicon pack for each cartoon?.
     
  7. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    safe place

    some coin were contaminated with sticky surface. some with black spot. but black spot i knew where i got those. my coins were mostly came with mint original capsule, box and sleeves. i stored several coins within a 12" x 12" x 12" cartoon. and put around 4 to 6 cartoon in one place. said room cabinet. the question is do i have to put silicon pack inside to those cartoon. together with coins on each cartoon. or just put one silicon pack beside those 4 cartoon?. and i have six places. so that's mean i need 6 silicon pack. is that correct?. please... and thanks again.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Annie -

    This sticky stuff - is it a greenish color by chance ? It sounds to me like some of your coins have PVC on them - that is not good. If it is in fact PVC it is very, very bad and must be removed.

    That brings an even more important question - are these coins in plastic flips ? And if they are in flips are these flips soft and pliable ? If they are - that is the source of the PVC contamination.

    But to answer your question - yes you need to place a silica pack in each carton.
     
  9. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    pvc is bad

    if 2 x 2 pvc flip is bad and can damage the coin. why they still selling them. it should be ban.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They keep on selling because they are cheap to use.
     
  11. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    use a 40 gram silicon

    if i use a 40 gram silicon. can i use one only for those 4 cartoon?. and if it can, so that 40 gram silicon will be place beside those four cartoons. right?. or maybe again i have to buy 4 - 40 gram for those four cartoons?.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes - you could use 1 40 gram for the 4 cartons. But you can't just leave the cartons in a cabinet and expect the silica to work. That's like leaving the cartons out in the open in a room of your home and expecting the silica to work. You have to store things in an enclosed space like a large Rubbermaid bin with a snap on lid - something like that. It has to be a container where the air cannot freely circulate.
     
  13. Bacchus

    Bacchus Coin Duffer

    I've read that they are better for short-term usage, such as mailing one to someone, because the PVC plastic is less abrasive on the coin than a non-PVC flip. The recipient just has to know to transfer the coin out once he gets it.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    There is some truth to that - but I guarantee you that if the non PVC flips were cheaper - those would be the ones they'd use ;)
     
  15. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    safe place

    for how long should i replace a new silicon pack?. i knew 40 gram can be re-charged. but the cheaper and smaller silicon pack. they have to change after using a while right?.
     
  16. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    If your area is way too humid, you might want to invest with a dehumidifier. I have that at home because it's way too humid back home... And yes, I have silica gel as well... :)
     
  17. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    safe place

    what exactly will humidity cause to your coins?. is it black spot, tone or change color, or what?.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Yes - any but the rechargable type have to be replaced. How often depends on how humid it is at your home. It could be 2 weeks - it could be 3 months.

    That's the nice thing about the rechargable packs - they have a small window in them that allows you to see the color of the silica granules. If it is blue - it's fine. When it turns to pink you need to recharge it.

    I don't like to guess when it comes to the safety of my coins - I want to KNOW it is still working.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Any or all of them. It can also cause the coins to corrode.
     
  20. annie21

    annie21 Senior Member

    safe place

    oh my god. it's harder than taking care of my baby. maybe i should quit.
     
  21. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    lol - too early to call it a quit yet. :)
     
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