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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2711110, member: 22331"]I believe if one participates/generates an independent study of TPG "standards", they will find worse than that which was determined/found by the Coin World, and other "independent" efforts. Namely, that there aren't "universal" standards amongst even the "premier" TPG. I have believed gross examples of same, where a 1908-D MOTTO $20 certified, without alterations, differing TPG graded from an original MS65 grade, to a current "<b>UNC DETAILS</b>" OBV IMPROPERLY CLEANED, a potential value change from ~$7000 to ~>$1250. A 1906 $20 certified, without alterations or detectable "hairlines" having continuous mirrored surfaces on fields/devices, differing TPG graded from MS63 PL to a current "<b>UNC DETAILS</b>" HARSHLY CLEANED, a potential value change from ~$3600 to ~>$1250.</p><p><br /></p><p>It isn't any longer even a requirement for an eBay seller to abide by posted rules of selling a coin once an auction has been completed, or posting an image of the auctioned coin. I've had an auction cancelled after final bid on multiple occasions, and sellers are posting certified under-graded coins with a specific date/#, in an auction listing "random date", ** sold.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sorry, but some of the posts in this thread remind me of ACG threads/posts in the past. In recent studies, ACG coins were removed from their holders, and submitted to the top "premier" TPG, receiving a grade above that on the ACG holder, significantly increasing theoretical value, just by changing a slab. Who is "wrong"?</p><p><br /></p><p>I know several associates, and prominent firms who take "artistic/creative license" in their sales efforts, well documented, with ignored "reports".</p><p><br /></p><p>JMHO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2711110, member: 22331"]I believe if one participates/generates an independent study of TPG "standards", they will find worse than that which was determined/found by the Coin World, and other "independent" efforts. Namely, that there aren't "universal" standards amongst even the "premier" TPG. I have believed gross examples of same, where a 1908-D MOTTO $20 certified, without alterations, differing TPG graded from an original MS65 grade, to a current "[B]UNC DETAILS[/B]" OBV IMPROPERLY CLEANED, a potential value change from ~$7000 to ~>$1250. A 1906 $20 certified, without alterations or detectable "hairlines" having continuous mirrored surfaces on fields/devices, differing TPG graded from MS63 PL to a current "[B]UNC DETAILS[/B]" HARSHLY CLEANED, a potential value change from ~$3600 to ~>$1250. It isn't any longer even a requirement for an eBay seller to abide by posted rules of selling a coin once an auction has been completed, or posting an image of the auctioned coin. I've had an auction cancelled after final bid on multiple occasions, and sellers are posting certified under-graded coins with a specific date/#, in an auction listing "random date", ** sold. I'm sorry, but some of the posts in this thread remind me of ACG threads/posts in the past. In recent studies, ACG coins were removed from their holders, and submitted to the top "premier" TPG, receiving a grade above that on the ACG holder, significantly increasing theoretical value, just by changing a slab. Who is "wrong"? I know several associates, and prominent firms who take "artistic/creative license" in their sales efforts, well documented, with ignored "reports". JMHO[/QUOTE]
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