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<p>[QUOTE="calcol, post: 2459111, member: 77639"]Let's say you're a dealer who is a customer of PCGS. Among the last few coins sent in, you think some very valuable ones were under-graded. So you break them out of the slabs, and before you can send them for re-grading, another dealer makes a good offer. You need cash at the moment, so you sell the coins. A couple of months later, you see some of the same coins in PCGS slabs but at higher grades than you received. You recognize the coins because they are quite rare and have characteristic marks, toning, etc. Further, they're being offered by David Hall Rare Coins. Time to call regulators and consult a lawyer. Regulators and courts take a dim view of corporate insiders gaining an unfair advantage over customers. Could turn out to be a nothing: Mr. Hall may have acquired the coins after they were graded. On the other hand, he may have submitted them, and there may be a good case.</p><p><br /></p><p>The above scenario can be cast in endless variations. I don't think David Hall grades his own coins or is allowed to influence their grading. Not only would it be unethical, but probably illegal (PCGS is part of a NASDAQ-listed corporation). For him to do so, would fly in the face of one of the chief reasons TPG services evolved: put an end to dealers over-grading their stock.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would guess there is a company policy on employees, relatives of employees, and businesses owned by employees submitting coins for grading. Hopefully, it would be forbidden to all, but if allowed, it should be double blind: graders should not know whose coin it is; the employee should not know who graded their coin. Yes, I've heard graders can't submit, but what about other employees? I've done a bit of searching, but haven't found the black and white on it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, Mr. Hall has said repeatedly that DHRC does not submit coins for grading. There was a long thread on this topic at <a href="https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=631484&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=631484&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear" rel="nofollow">https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=631484&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear</a> eight years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>Apparently at one time, DHRC or its predecessor was a submission center for PCGS, but company-owned coins were never submitted, and today, it is not even a submission center. </p><p><br /></p><p>Cal[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="calcol, post: 2459111, member: 77639"]Let's say you're a dealer who is a customer of PCGS. Among the last few coins sent in, you think some very valuable ones were under-graded. So you break them out of the slabs, and before you can send them for re-grading, another dealer makes a good offer. You need cash at the moment, so you sell the coins. A couple of months later, you see some of the same coins in PCGS slabs but at higher grades than you received. You recognize the coins because they are quite rare and have characteristic marks, toning, etc. Further, they're being offered by David Hall Rare Coins. Time to call regulators and consult a lawyer. Regulators and courts take a dim view of corporate insiders gaining an unfair advantage over customers. Could turn out to be a nothing: Mr. Hall may have acquired the coins after they were graded. On the other hand, he may have submitted them, and there may be a good case. The above scenario can be cast in endless variations. I don't think David Hall grades his own coins or is allowed to influence their grading. Not only would it be unethical, but probably illegal (PCGS is part of a NASDAQ-listed corporation). For him to do so, would fly in the face of one of the chief reasons TPG services evolved: put an end to dealers over-grading their stock. I would guess there is a company policy on employees, relatives of employees, and businesses owned by employees submitting coins for grading. Hopefully, it would be forbidden to all, but if allowed, it should be double blind: graders should not know whose coin it is; the employee should not know who graded their coin. Yes, I've heard graders can't submit, but what about other employees? I've done a bit of searching, but haven't found the black and white on it. Finally, Mr. Hall has said repeatedly that DHRC does not submit coins for grading. There was a long thread on this topic at [url]https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=26&threadid=631484&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear[/url] eight years ago. Apparently at one time, DHRC or its predecessor was a submission center for PCGS, but company-owned coins were never submitted, and today, it is not even a submission center. Cal[/QUOTE]
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