Where do you think this 89 CC will grade at?

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  2. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    There are reasons it's raw. Looks messed with, and authenticity???
    The eagle's breast looks weird.
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2020
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  3. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    I'll go with what longshot said. An 1889 CC in AU goes for thousands. No TPG (PCGS/NGC) slab makes me filled with caution. I wouldn't buy it.
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Do yourself a favor and ignore all the raw 89 CC
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  5. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    It will certify anywhere you are willing to pay and wait. But it won't straight grade.
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  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Suspicious over bright lighting trying to hide something.
    Lot's of scratches. Probably dipped and or cleaned. If it was a legit straight grade AU, you have to ask yourself, why the owner didn't have it graded, where it is an
    ($8,000?) coin, but instead, is willing to roll the dice and auction it off where it could hammer at $3,000 or less. The auction ends in 99 minutes. Sure there are plenty of people who will snipe it up at the end (or shill it up), but when they receive the coin they may return it if not satisfied. These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    “If you need to contact me, please contact me through my email address.“

    It seems the seller is trying to avoid eBay PMs. Why would they do that? Just saying.
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  8. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Lots of legit sellers and listings attempt that too if for no other reason to try and set up the sale outside of eBay and avoid the fee
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  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Not in this case, as the seller says the email address will be provided after payment via PayPal.
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  10. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    Too many nos on this coin. I would pass.
  11. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Supporter! Supporter

    I would not even remotely consider it
  12. Malleus Maleficarum

    Malleus Maleficarum Active Member

    The seller has to many red flags for me to consider buying anything from them. The pictures of all the coins they have look sketchy. There's something off. This seller has quite a few seemingly very nice coins for sale. None of them are graded. All raw. Not that would necessarily mean anything. But in this day and age, the majority of reputable sellers have their most expensive coins in slabs from one of the better grading companies.

    All the past auctions are private. Why is this? Are they trying to prevent people from researching the coins they sold? It's not like they're protecting the identity of the buyer. eBay does that automatically.
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  13. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    AU details, cleaned. Assuming it's genuine.
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  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Definitely a no go for a buyer there. At best that's probably phishing for emails
  15. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    The seller has almost 10,000 feedbacks with a 100% positive rating. You don't get that being a scammer. So far the coin is at 1/3 of it's value as a untouched original coin meaning it has issues. That being said it looks like a very difficult hole to fill will sell at a price that many collectors who can't afford to pay full value will be happy to pay. It is easy to say "I wouldn't touch this coin" if you regularly dish out 10 grand for the best but for a collector who skimps and saves for a tough one this is a blessing, you just have to accept the flaws.
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The really high grade 1889-CC dollars are frequently, if not always Proof-Like. I learned this when I filled my want list requests for it as a dealer. This one, it it’s genuine, has no luster at all. It’s surfaces have stripped. If it’s real, it would get a “details grade” from a TPG.

    This is one of those coins I would Have never sold raw when I was a dealer. There were too many counterfeit coins out there. Today that problem has increased by 10 fold at least.
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  17. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat dave700x -1883 O nut

    I think it's a low AU maybe even EF coin that may have been cleaned. It does appear to be a legitimate VAM-5 example. Looking at the seller's other auctions confirm that he's using a flat bed scanner.
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  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    It sold for $3081.
    I would look for this coin to be returned, and relisted. When the buyer
    realizes he can't flip it.
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  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I am one of those that won't click on links (I use Hughes Net satellite and have limited download limits) so can't opine on the coin. Many here don't appreciate having to click on unknown, or even known, links so it would be helpful (to us and you) to post actual photos of coins you have questions about.
  20. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Great answer Mountain Man. I'm with others I wouldn't even consider it and I'm a Morgan man.
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