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<p>[QUOTE="Stork, post: 2800740, member: 71642"]I think there are a billion or so people who would disagree with you about the 'round' requirement <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><img src="https://collectivecoin.imgix.net/dT9wM9qJQM2EwBaYU1OJ_combo.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I read a nice description of what a coin is on wiki and have adapted it with a few additions</p><p><br /></p><p>Basically being small, flat (though I would argue the Byzantine pocket change would be the exception), usually round (though obviously not always), pieces of metal (or plastic, or porcelain, or clay--I added that one as the so-called porcelain coins of Japan aren't exactly porcelain). </p><p><br /></p><p>They are <u>legal tender</u> (so that takes out tokens even though they can be used like a coin) <u>used as a medium of exchange</u>. </p><p><br /></p><p><u>Standardized in weight</u> (plus <u>diameter</u> and <u>content</u> I would add) with a <u>specified value</u>. Produced in large (define large) quantities at a mint (I would say government or contracted facility), and produced in order to facilitate trade.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, not bullion (a store of value based on metal content and can be used as trade). </p><p><br /></p><p>Proofs, well I count them as coins, just pretty versions of the 'facilitating trade versions'. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for trials/provas/essais. Hmm. Special circumstances because I like a lot of them.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I give a hearty NO to NCLT as coins as they really aren't meant to circulate by definition. Love some of 'em, but no.</p><p><br /></p><p>Merchant tokens fail on the government and legal tender aspect, even though they do 'facilitate trade'.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, all those are collectible and may or may not have a face value or intrinsic value based on content, BUT are they truly coins?</p><p><br /></p><p>All interesting to consider, however I do take exception to the whole round part. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>(Unless I misread the entire of the premise and you were really talking about damage to a previously round coin...as in how much damage can it take and still be a coin. Then my answer is 'it's a coin as long as the vending machine will still take it').[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stork, post: 2800740, member: 71642"]I think there are a billion or so people who would disagree with you about the 'round' requirement :D. [IMG]https://collectivecoin.imgix.net/dT9wM9qJQM2EwBaYU1OJ_combo.jpg[/IMG] I read a nice description of what a coin is on wiki and have adapted it with a few additions Basically being small, flat (though I would argue the Byzantine pocket change would be the exception), usually round (though obviously not always), pieces of metal (or plastic, or porcelain, or clay--I added that one as the so-called porcelain coins of Japan aren't exactly porcelain). They are [U]legal tender[/U] (so that takes out tokens even though they can be used like a coin) [U]used as a medium of exchange[/U]. [U]Standardized in weight[/U] (plus [U]diameter[/U] and [U]content[/U] I would add) with a [U]specified value[/U]. Produced in large (define large) quantities at a mint (I would say government or contracted facility), and produced in order to facilitate trade. So, not bullion (a store of value based on metal content and can be used as trade). Proofs, well I count them as coins, just pretty versions of the 'facilitating trade versions'. As for trials/provas/essais. Hmm. Special circumstances because I like a lot of them. But I give a hearty NO to NCLT as coins as they really aren't meant to circulate by definition. Love some of 'em, but no. Merchant tokens fail on the government and legal tender aspect, even though they do 'facilitate trade'. Now, all those are collectible and may or may not have a face value or intrinsic value based on content, BUT are they truly coins? All interesting to consider, however I do take exception to the whole round part. :D (Unless I misread the entire of the premise and you were really talking about damage to a previously round coin...as in how much damage can it take and still be a coin. Then my answer is 'it's a coin as long as the vending machine will still take it').[/QUOTE]
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