Where did the silver & gold for early American coinage come from?

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  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  3. Cheech9712

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  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Come from? Dug up stuff called 'mining'....
     
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    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Google it
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Google's way more friendly than us...........
     
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    Thanks
     
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    I liked this thread
     
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    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Good Lord Cheech, abandon ye all hope........
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I do and I do the same for her.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The definitive, and documented, answer has already been given in post #22.
     
  13. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I was not aware of that. I won't spread that false rumor ever again.
     
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    BINGO!

    I don't believe so. After 1853 you could sell silver to the government , or deposit it and have it made into bars, you couldn't deposit it for coinage. Gold you could still deposit for free coinage. When the silver coins became subsidiary in 1853 there was a profit to be made from the seigniorage and the government reserved that to themselves.

    Beginning in 1873 people could again deposit silver for coinage, but only for Trade dollars, and that was eliminated in 1878.

    Gold could be deposited for free conversion into coins up until the recall order in 1933. After that, until 1975, it could only be sold to the government.

    Since gold can now be owned the laws allowing you to deposit gold and silver at the mint still apply, but the only choices are to ether sell it at the official price ($1.29 per oz for silver, $41.25 per oz for gold) or have it made into bars. You can't have it coined.
     
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  15. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Not too many sellers in that market
    Just a guess
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Actually if you brought it in and requested to have it made into bars they couldn't do it. They no longer have that capability. Until 1982 if they did accept it they would have to ship it to the New York Assay Office, since than they may have the capabilities at the West Point Mint. If not I'm not sure what they would do. The law says you can have it made into bars, but if they can't make it into bars anymore, would they have to pay someone to do it for them?
     
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  17. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    Cool word
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I stand corrected on that point - no coins anymore. But they will turn your bullion into bars for you, or give you bars they already have for your bullion.

    The primary point I was trying to get across is that you can still deposit bullion with the US Mint.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5121
     
  19. schnickelfritz48

    schnickelfritz48 Well-Known Member

    Cortez was easily able to conquer the Aztecs because he did indeed overwhelm them with weaponry (gunpowder), horses, (the Aztecs believed the horse and rider were one creature), and armor.
     
  20. Burton Strauss III

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    And disease...

    PBS.org 23 Feb 2019
     
  21. Steve Shupe

    Steve Shupe Active Member

    There was a steady movement of silver and gold from the America's (primarily Mexico, Central America and South America. Think of the 1715 Spanish fleet that was lost in the Hurricane off Florida. We did lots of trade in Cotton and Tobacco with Spain and England and France and payment was in coins from them or other trade items. Tariffs (taxes) were collected on imports and exports. As most countries did, we melted coins from other countries and made American coins. There was a normal cycle for both here and there.
     
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