Discussion in 'World Coins' started by JeffC, Jan 10, 2019.
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Thanks Paddy54. In fact, that was one of the first places I checked. (I should have mentioned it.) Regrettably, it only listed the basic specifications and did not have details about the designs' significance.
Thanks for the link Alurid. But what I was searching for are "explanations" of the images on the reverse sides - more than basic specs. I don't see them - unless I'm doing something wrong. Appreciate your link anyway. It'll come in handy for some other stuff, I'm sure.
I would think that info is out there somewhere. Good luck.
Maybe the stories behind the images are quite "obvious and easy" but because I never went to Sunday School...
I went to Sunday school, but a different branch of the service.
Also, try doing a google search for each individual coin (e.g.: "vatican 20 lire 1981") and see what that turns up.
The coin in the upper left corner could depict the Lazarus scene, and the one below says "Fortitudo", so I suppose this is an allegoric representation of fortitude. The two on the left actually have (very short) descriptions in the Schön; the upper one is about taking care of prisoners ("Christianity and solidarity" set), the lower one about maternity ("family values" set).
Thanks and sorry for the late acknowledgement. I was looking at the same site and was trying to find a link where I can send a message to ask if they can connect me with their mint department. I'll keep trying. Thanks again for your feedback.
Thanks and sorry for the late reply. I've exhausted google search and wikipedia. I can find (as @chrisild stated) lots of specs - but nothing about the "stories" behind them.
Firstly, I apologize for the late reply and acknowledgement. Thank you very, very much for your help. I agree - it's so hard to find information (of the thematic kind) on Vatican coins. I'll try to reach out to their mint department directly. I have quite a number of coins with many interesting designs and I'd simply like to find out more about each one. Thanks also for our brief write-up. They certainly make sense. I also have a 50-centesemi coin that has 2 dates: 1933 and 1934. I'm definitely interested as to why there are two dates on that one coin.
"There have been two extraordinary jubilees in this [the 20th] century: 1933 proclaimed by Pope Pius XI to mark the 1900th anniversary of Redemption and 1983 proclaimed by Pope John Paul II to mark 1950 years since the Redemption carried out by Christ through his Death and Resurrection in the year 33." (Source)
@chrisild, I think I was absent when the professor taught "Research Skills 101". LOL. In addition to Wiki or Google, I also checked the Vatican site and others as well, entering "1933, 1934, Vatican" as key words/numbers. I was able to find out that 1933 was the Jubilee but I didn't see the connection to 1934. Thank you once again for the enlightenment, your expertise, and the source link.
For example, the armored individual has "Fortitudo" written underneath - extolling the virtue of courage.
The hands reaching through the gates are almost certainly encouraging taking care of prisoners (visiting them or feeding them, etc). This is a reference to Matthew 25:31-40.
The seated lady with the child is extolling the virtues of motherhood (and is probably a reference to a version of the Madonna and Child).
Not entirely sure what the top left one is, but the halo implies that this is a saint (or maybe a pilgrim). The open door and welcoming gesture indicates that this is encouraging hospitality. It may be a reference to a specific saint, or it may be more general, although saints are usually depicted with identifying symbols.
Krause does have descriptions of some of these coins, and might at least give you enough words to search for more information.
If you're stumped after checking Krause, you might consider visiting a priest and have him explain some of the images - iconography is historically extremely important to the Catholic church. You see the same types of images used for hundreds or thousands of years, and someone involved in the church should be able to identify many of them.
Thanks @physics-fan3.14. I appreciate your input. Consulting a member of the clergy is a great idea! I might just do that this spring.
but we already have five different designs for the Vatican euro circulation coins: Pope John Paul II, Vacant See 2005 (which strictly speaking violated the monetary agreement), Pope Benedict XVI, Pope Francis I, and now the personal seal of Francis. The Vatican also issues commemorative €2 coins (initially one per year, now two) with occasion specific designs. On top of that you have all the silver and gold collector coins. "No room"? Oh well ...
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