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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Finn235, post: 7831358, member: 98035&quot;]Julian II is the last to see any sort of large coinage output while he was still Caesar under Constantius II, although I believe others held the title, albeit not necessarily on coinage.</p><p><br /></p><p>Patricius (son of Aspar) was briefly Caesar under Leo I, but no coinage exists for him as such. Leo II I think was elevated straight to co-Augustus with his grandfather, although I could have sworn I saw one solidus of Leo I with Leo II as Caesar. Can&#039;t find it now, maybe I&#039;m just imagining things. At any rate, there are joint reign &quot;ZENO ET LEO NOV CAES&quot; - although on paper Leo II was the appointed heir and thus &quot;senior&quot; emperor, I&#039;m sure that it would not have been hard to talk him into taking the title of Caesar under his father, given that he was about six years old.</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Leo+Nov+caes&amp;category=1-2&amp;lot=&amp;thesaurus=1&amp;images=1&amp;en=1&amp;de=1&amp;fr=1&amp;it=1&amp;es=1&amp;ot=1&amp;currency=usd&amp;order=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Leo+Nov+caes&amp;category=1-2&amp;lot=&amp;thesaurus=1&amp;images=1&amp;en=1&amp;de=1&amp;fr=1&amp;it=1&amp;es=1&amp;ot=1&amp;currency=usd&amp;order=0" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Leo+Nov+caes&amp;category=1-2&amp;lot=&amp;thesaurus=1&amp;images=1&amp;en=1&amp;de=1&amp;fr=1&amp;it=1&amp;es=1&amp;ot=1&amp;currency=usd&amp;order=0</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Of course there were claimants to the title of Augustus until the fall of the Holy Roman Empire (and Kaiser/Czar were extensions of that claim), although I believe it was somewhere around around 8th/9th century that the Byzantines dropped AVG on coinage, of course exacerbated by the fact that the average mint worker was likely illiterate and the rigid abbreviations conventions of the late Roman Empire had gone out the window. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is around the same time that Charlemagne and his immediate successors issued some rare coins with the traditional IMP AVG titulary.</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1216390" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1216390" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1216390</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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