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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 2428752, member: 66"]Depends on when you are talking about. Up until 1853 the silver coins DID contain almost their full face value in metal content as did the gold coins. In fact at times they contained MORE than their face value. During those periods coinage levels would drop. Remember until 1837 all the silver and gold for the coins was provided by depositiors and the metal was turned into coins at no charge. AND the depositors got back all the bullion the deposited. It was the seigniorage from the COPPER coins that paid the expenses. After 1837 the mint had it's own bullion fund and could buy bullion on the open market for it's own account as well. But that was mainly used to have coins on hand for immediate payment of depositors rather than having them wait until their bullion was coined. It also let the mint stockpile deposits until they could be processed more efficiently. In 1853 the silver coins were made subsidiary and then there was a small seigniorage profit on the silver (except for dollars, they had $1.04 worth of silver in them) but the gold coins still contained full face value. (And depositors could no longer deposit silver to be made into coins. All seigniorage on silver coins was now the governments.) But the government still didn't make that much seigniorage profit on the silver until after the Comstock lode caused the market price of silver to drop. At the time the gold coins were discontinued a double eagle contained $19.98+ in gold. When the silver ended in the 1960's it too contained its full face value in metal, and once again the lowly copper coins were carrying the load.</p><p><br /></p><p>No for most of the Mint's life up until the introduction of clad coins it was the cent that paid the mints expenses. For the past 12 years or so that hasn't been the case and the cent has been the source of most of the losses, and that is not going to change in the future.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 2428752, member: 66"]Depends on when you are talking about. Up until 1853 the silver coins DID contain almost their full face value in metal content as did the gold coins. In fact at times they contained MORE than their face value. During those periods coinage levels would drop. Remember until 1837 all the silver and gold for the coins was provided by depositiors and the metal was turned into coins at no charge. AND the depositors got back all the bullion the deposited. It was the seigniorage from the COPPER coins that paid the expenses. After 1837 the mint had it's own bullion fund and could buy bullion on the open market for it's own account as well. But that was mainly used to have coins on hand for immediate payment of depositors rather than having them wait until their bullion was coined. It also let the mint stockpile deposits until they could be processed more efficiently. In 1853 the silver coins were made subsidiary and then there was a small seigniorage profit on the silver (except for dollars, they had $1.04 worth of silver in them) but the gold coins still contained full face value. (And depositors could no longer deposit silver to be made into coins. All seigniorage on silver coins was now the governments.) But the government still didn't make that much seigniorage profit on the silver until after the Comstock lode caused the market price of silver to drop. At the time the gold coins were discontinued a double eagle contained $19.98+ in gold. When the silver ended in the 1960's it too contained its full face value in metal, and once again the lowly copper coins were carrying the load. No for most of the Mint's life up until the introduction of clad coins it was the cent that paid the mints expenses. For the past 12 years or so that hasn't been the case and the cent has been the source of most of the losses, and that is not going to change in the future.[/QUOTE]
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