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<p>[QUOTE="Prethen, post: 24922, member: 1756"]<b>One service seems to be always left out...</b></p><p><br /></p><p>I think you're overlooking the new kid on the block...ICG. They are FAR from a low-tier service. Unfortunately, I've found out the hard way, they are very hard line when it comes to grading, maybe a little too hard. From everything I've seen they appear to be very conservative graders at a minimum and very accurate at a maximum.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've heard more than one dealer bad mouth them, but it was more along the lines of that they couldn't sell the slab for what wholesale said it should be worth. I think there's a bit of ignorance out there in the collecting field when it comes to grading services. Many would say that PCGS is a bit too lenient.</p><p><br /></p><p>I happen to live in the Denver area and I can walk right into ICG's offices (and I have). I met and spoke with J.P. Martin. He's a very personable and very intelligent gentlemen. We talked about how hard it is to tell a proof from a business strike when it comes to the 1884 or 1885 3-cent nickels. Basically, he said you really can't even trust a business strike in those so-called upper tier services.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, I must say, I'm very satisfied with circulated type coins that are graded by ANACS. They tend to be fairly conservative on those coins whereas PCI is a bit more lenient.</p><p><br /></p><p>SEGS is an interesting player. They don't get a lot of respect, however in a comparison study done by Coin World, on average, they undergraded everything given to them. Maybe that was just a fluke.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyways, I think it will only be a matter of time before ICG receives the respect it deserves. Many of us (including several dealers I've spoken with) deem ICG as potentially the highest tier. Take a look at J.P. Martin's video on grading mint state coins. It's eye opening and teaches you just how strict they're grading guidelines are.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Prethen, post: 24922, member: 1756"][b]One service seems to be always left out...[/b] I think you're overlooking the new kid on the block...ICG. They are FAR from a low-tier service. Unfortunately, I've found out the hard way, they are very hard line when it comes to grading, maybe a little too hard. From everything I've seen they appear to be very conservative graders at a minimum and very accurate at a maximum. I've heard more than one dealer bad mouth them, but it was more along the lines of that they couldn't sell the slab for what wholesale said it should be worth. I think there's a bit of ignorance out there in the collecting field when it comes to grading services. Many would say that PCGS is a bit too lenient. I happen to live in the Denver area and I can walk right into ICG's offices (and I have). I met and spoke with J.P. Martin. He's a very personable and very intelligent gentlemen. We talked about how hard it is to tell a proof from a business strike when it comes to the 1884 or 1885 3-cent nickels. Basically, he said you really can't even trust a business strike in those so-called upper tier services. By the way, I must say, I'm very satisfied with circulated type coins that are graded by ANACS. They tend to be fairly conservative on those coins whereas PCI is a bit more lenient. SEGS is an interesting player. They don't get a lot of respect, however in a comparison study done by Coin World, on average, they undergraded everything given to them. Maybe that was just a fluke. Anyways, I think it will only be a matter of time before ICG receives the respect it deserves. Many of us (including several dealers I've spoken with) deem ICG as potentially the highest tier. Take a look at J.P. Martin's video on grading mint state coins. It's eye opening and teaches you just how strict they're grading guidelines are.[/QUOTE]
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