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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 8343082, member: 91461"]Some very cool, beautiful and <i>strange</i> coins here<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie16" alt=":artist:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie6" alt=":cool:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie39" alt=":cyclops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Thanks for the great responses!</p><p>[USER=86815]@Dafydd[/USER] Great coin that's even more cool due to coming with old tags... and even cooler still that the tag was written around the same time as the Strange Days album!</p><p>Good call out and great coins Donna!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie100" alt=":wideyed:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Antonia said of her own son, Claudius, "a monster of a man, not finished but merely begun by Dame Nature". At least per a boy named Suetonius.</p><p>I really need to upgrade some of these, but there are still so many shields out there to buy!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479611[/ATTACH]</p><p>Agrippina/Germanicus</p><p>(Died 19 and 33, respectively). PHRYGIA. Aezanis. Ae. 17 MM 3.4 gr Lollios Klassikos, magistrate.</p><p>Obv: ΓЄPMANIKOC.</p><p> Laureate head of Germanicus right.</p><p> Rev: AΓPIΠΠINA ЄΠI KΛACCIKOV AIZANITωN.</p><p> Draped bust of Agrippina right.</p><p>RPC I 3081; SNG Copenhagen 71-2</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479636[/ATTACH]</p><p>DRUSUS CAESAR</p><p>son of Tiberius. Caesar, 19-23 CE. Æ As (28mm, 7.33 g). Rome mint. Issued under Tiberius, 22-23 CE. Bare head of Drusus left / Legend around large SC. RIC I 45 (Tiberius);</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479616[/ATTACH]</p><p>And here's a pretty fun barbarous Caligula (his barbarians LOVED him. When he was assassinated his 500 barbarian guards went ballistic, turning Rome upside down):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479619[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Nice example [USER=80952]@ambr0zie[/USER] <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />and just like [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] pointed out, not only are these auctions getting more popular, quickly (that was only their tenth), they are putting some super rare and sometimes unique coins on the market. There were some rare and beautiful bronze Septimius Severus coins that went for thousands<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> And here I thought, was hoping, all these new collectors want is slabbed silver<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Ahhhh, [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] showing up with some class and panache <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie77" alt=":pompous:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>I was so frustrated when finding out this wasn't Julia! I'd spent so much time and care collecting the three Julia's as personifications<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie40" alt=":dead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> but I'm at peace with it now as it's another Julio-Claudi portrait<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie83" alt=":singing:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Admittedly not as nice as yours, nor my two other Julia's, Marc Breitsprecher gave me a great price and I was looking for a way to lick my wounds after getting trounced at some auction or other:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479620[/ATTACH]</p><p>Claudia Julia Livia, nicknamed Livilla ("Little Livia"), was the daughter of Nero Claudius Drusus and Antonia Minor, and sister to Germanicus and the future emperor Claudius. Though Roman historians describe her as remarkably beautiful and charming, they also condemn her as a power-hungry adulteress and murderess. Tacitus accuses her of conspiring with her lover, the Praetorian Prefect Sejanus, to poison her husband, the imperial heir Drusus Caesar, who died in AD 23. This coin, struck in the name of Drusus shortly before his death, depicts on the obverse a veiled and classically beautiful woman as Pietas, goddess of religious piety and dutifulness. David Vagi has argued convincingly that the head represents Livilla, given that the other bronze coins issued the same year depict Drusus himself and the couple's twin sons, forming a "family set."</p><p><br /></p><p>Where have I seen that Tiberius of yours before<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479612[/ATTACH]</p><p>Tiberius</p><p>AD 14-37 CE. AR Denarius minted at Lugdunum. Laureate head right of Tiberius. Reverse: Female figure (Livia?) seated right. RIC 26; BMC 34. Appealing portrait; Choice Very Fine.</p><p>The "Tribute Penny" of Biblical fame.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cherry coins, as always, [USER=100777]@octavius[/USER] <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie16" alt=":artist:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Here's my lemon Germanicus:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479610[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Cool Tiberius [USER=75143]@hotwheelsearl[/USER] I don't recognize the type. Where is it from and what's it portraying?</p><p>Very nice condition, cool coin and even cooler due to being from Phillippi Macedon. Named after ATGs dad Philip II!</p><p>I do find it interesting that the OP coin has a similarity with this coin minted the year of Caesar's birth. Two dudes sitting next to each other talking:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479608[/ATTACH]</p><p>Q. Servilius Caepio, 100 BC. Denarius (Silver, 19.5 mm, 3.87 g, 11 h), Rome. PISO · / CAEPIO · Q Laureate head of Saturn to right; behind, harpa; below, trident. Rev. AD · FRV · EMV / EX · S · C Two quaestors seated left on stools between two wheat stalks. Babelon (Calpurnia) 5. Crawford 330/1a. Sydenham 603. Die-break on obverse, otherwise, very fine.</p><p>From the Trausnitz Collection, ex G. Hirsch 187, 19 September 1995, 865</p><p>Purchased from Nomos Obols Feb 2021[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 8343082, member: 91461"]Some very cool, beautiful and [I]strange[/I] coins here:artist::cool::cyclops:. Thanks for the great responses! [USER=86815]@Dafydd[/USER] Great coin that's even more cool due to coming with old tags... and even cooler still that the tag was written around the same time as the Strange Days album! Good call out and great coins Donna!:wideyed: Antonia said of her own son, Claudius, "a monster of a man, not finished but merely begun by Dame Nature". At least per a boy named Suetonius. I really need to upgrade some of these, but there are still so many shields out there to buy! [ATTACH=full]1479611[/ATTACH] Agrippina/Germanicus (Died 19 and 33, respectively). PHRYGIA. Aezanis. Ae. 17 MM 3.4 gr Lollios Klassikos, magistrate. Obv: ΓЄPMANIKOC. Laureate head of Germanicus right. Rev: AΓPIΠΠINA ЄΠI KΛACCIKOV AIZANITωN. Draped bust of Agrippina right. RPC I 3081; SNG Copenhagen 71-2 [ATTACH=full]1479636[/ATTACH] DRUSUS CAESAR son of Tiberius. Caesar, 19-23 CE. Æ As (28mm, 7.33 g). Rome mint. Issued under Tiberius, 22-23 CE. Bare head of Drusus left / Legend around large SC. RIC I 45 (Tiberius); [ATTACH=full]1479616[/ATTACH] And here's a pretty fun barbarous Caligula (his barbarians LOVED him. When he was assassinated his 500 barbarian guards went ballistic, turning Rome upside down): [ATTACH=full]1479619[/ATTACH] Nice example [USER=80952]@ambr0zie[/USER] :woot:and just like [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] pointed out, not only are these auctions getting more popular, quickly (that was only their tenth), they are putting some super rare and sometimes unique coins on the market. There were some rare and beautiful bronze Septimius Severus coins that went for thousands:greedy: And here I thought, was hoping, all these new collectors want is slabbed silver:confused: Ahhhh, [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] showing up with some class and panache :cigar::pompous: I was so frustrated when finding out this wasn't Julia! I'd spent so much time and care collecting the three Julia's as personifications:kiss::kiss::dead: but I'm at peace with it now as it's another Julio-Claudi portrait:singing: Admittedly not as nice as yours, nor my two other Julia's, Marc Breitsprecher gave me a great price and I was looking for a way to lick my wounds after getting trounced at some auction or other: [ATTACH=full]1479620[/ATTACH] Claudia Julia Livia, nicknamed Livilla ("Little Livia"), was the daughter of Nero Claudius Drusus and Antonia Minor, and sister to Germanicus and the future emperor Claudius. Though Roman historians describe her as remarkably beautiful and charming, they also condemn her as a power-hungry adulteress and murderess. Tacitus accuses her of conspiring with her lover, the Praetorian Prefect Sejanus, to poison her husband, the imperial heir Drusus Caesar, who died in AD 23. This coin, struck in the name of Drusus shortly before his death, depicts on the obverse a veiled and classically beautiful woman as Pietas, goddess of religious piety and dutifulness. David Vagi has argued convincingly that the head represents Livilla, given that the other bronze coins issued the same year depict Drusus himself and the couple's twin sons, forming a "family set." Where have I seen that Tiberius of yours before;) [ATTACH=full]1479612[/ATTACH] Tiberius AD 14-37 CE. AR Denarius minted at Lugdunum. Laureate head right of Tiberius. Reverse: Female figure (Livia?) seated right. RIC 26; BMC 34. Appealing portrait; Choice Very Fine. The "Tribute Penny" of Biblical fame. Cherry coins, as always, [USER=100777]@octavius[/USER] :artist::cigar: Here's my lemon Germanicus: [ATTACH=full]1479610[/ATTACH] Cool Tiberius [USER=75143]@hotwheelsearl[/USER] I don't recognize the type. Where is it from and what's it portraying? Very nice condition, cool coin and even cooler due to being from Phillippi Macedon. Named after ATGs dad Philip II! I do find it interesting that the OP coin has a similarity with this coin minted the year of Caesar's birth. Two dudes sitting next to each other talking: [ATTACH=full]1479608[/ATTACH] Q. Servilius Caepio, 100 BC. Denarius (Silver, 19.5 mm, 3.87 g, 11 h), Rome. PISO · / CAEPIO · Q Laureate head of Saturn to right; behind, harpa; below, trident. Rev. AD · FRV · EMV / EX · S · C Two quaestors seated left on stools between two wheat stalks. Babelon (Calpurnia) 5. Crawford 330/1a. Sydenham 603. Die-break on obverse, otherwise, very fine. From the Trausnitz Collection, ex G. Hirsch 187, 19 September 1995, 865 Purchased from Nomos Obols Feb 2021[/QUOTE]
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