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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2587134, member: 24314"]I am looking for comments on this concept. We do not need to see a specific coin to discuss this. </p><p><br /></p><p>Many coins with a very reflective mirror finish on their field (Proofs, PL's and DMPL's) have a contrasting "frost" on their devices. This gives the piece a "Cameo" look. When the frosting is very thick, many call this look "Deep Cameo." IF THE CONTRAST IS NOT THERE, THE COIN IS NOT A CAMEO OR DEEP CAMEO! This should be common knowledge.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Set Up</span>: I have a gem Proof Ike dollar with beautiful iridescent deep blue toning covering the entire coin. Its fields are bright PL blue. The relief is darker and DEEPLY FROSTED. </p><p>Here is my dilemma. </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Problem: </span>I have been told by a well-known, well-respected, and long-time TPGS Finalizer that this coin does not qualify to be graded with the "Cameo" designation. <span style="color: #b300b3">His reason is there is no "Cameo" contrast due to the toning. </span> IMHO, this is wacko <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> and can be very confusing to an "unwashed and <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ignorant" collector such as myself! So I asked him, "What if I dip off the toning to expose the mirror field and deeply frosted devices. Would it qualify as a "Cameo" then. His answer was <b><span style="color: #ff0000">yes</span></b> because <span style="color: #ff0000">NOW</span> there is a contrast between the mirror and the frost!</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Question: <span style="color: #000000">Do you believe a 100% Deep Cameo P</span></span>roof with toning covering the entire coin should still rate a "Cameo" designation? </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2587134, member: 24314"]I am looking for comments on this concept. We do not need to see a specific coin to discuss this. Many coins with a very reflective mirror finish on their field (Proofs, PL's and DMPL's) have a contrasting "frost" on their devices. This gives the piece a "Cameo" look. When the frosting is very thick, many call this look "Deep Cameo." IF THE CONTRAST IS NOT THERE, THE COIN IS NOT A CAMEO OR DEEP CAMEO! This should be common knowledge. [COLOR=#ff0000]Set Up[/COLOR]: I have a gem Proof Ike dollar with beautiful iridescent deep blue toning covering the entire coin. Its fields are bright PL blue. The relief is darker and DEEPLY FROSTED. Here is my dilemma. [COLOR=#ff0000]Problem: [/COLOR]I have been told by a well-known, well-respected, and long-time TPGS Finalizer that this coin does not qualify to be graded with the "Cameo" designation. [COLOR=#b300b3]His reason is there is no "Cameo" contrast due to the toning. [/COLOR] IMHO, this is wacko :wacky: and can be very confusing to an "unwashed and :bucktooth: ignorant" collector such as myself! So I asked him, "What if I dip off the toning to expose the mirror field and deeply frosted devices. Would it qualify as a "Cameo" then. His answer was [B][COLOR=#ff0000]yes[/COLOR][/B] because [COLOR=#ff0000]NOW[/COLOR] there is a contrast between the mirror and the frost! [COLOR=#ff0000]Question: [COLOR=#000000]Do you believe a 100% Deep Cameo P[/COLOR][/COLOR]roof with toning covering the entire coin should still rate a "Cameo" designation? [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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