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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3991454, member: 75937"]That's very interesting, [USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER] . I'm not sure what would constitute proof of muling vs. low-mintage official issues, but it's a thought-provoking notion. Your coin appears to be unlisted, though I think you've misidentified it. I think it's RIC 1179, <a href="https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1198730&partId=1&searchText=Faustina+1179&page=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1198730&partId=1&searchText=Faustina+1179&page=1" rel="nofollow">BMCRE 1582</a>, with Vesta holding palladium and scepter, not a torch. Note the position of the goddess's left arm:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1050982[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Or <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5160306" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5160306" rel="nofollow">this example from Roma Numismatics</a>, with a very vertical scepter:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1050984[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In contrast, RIC 1178, <a href="https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1198731&partId=1&searchText=Faustina+1178&page=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1198731&partId=1&searchText=Faustina+1178&page=1" rel="nofollow">BMCRE 1581</a>, with Vesta holding Palladium and torch, depicts the goddess with her left arm held up near her shoulder, high on the torch:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1050983[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>But that's immaterial as far as the bust type is concerned. Cohen, RIC, BMCRE, and Strack do not list a veiled bust type for either RIC 1178 or 1179. The most comprehensive reference, Dinsdale,* does not list it, either. I am unable to find another example at ORCE, Wildwinds, or acsearchinfo. That variety is scarce, if not rare.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>*Dinsdale, Paul H. <i>Antoninus Pius and Marcus Aurelius Caesar AD 138-161: Antonine Coinage.</i> Leeds, Paul H Dinsdale, 2018.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3991454, member: 75937"]That's very interesting, [USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER] . I'm not sure what would constitute proof of muling vs. low-mintage official issues, but it's a thought-provoking notion. Your coin appears to be unlisted, though I think you've misidentified it. I think it's RIC 1179, [URL='https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1198730&partId=1&searchText=Faustina+1179&page=1']BMCRE 1582[/URL], with Vesta holding palladium and scepter, not a torch. Note the position of the goddess's left arm: [ATTACH=full]1050982[/ATTACH] Or [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5160306']this example from Roma Numismatics[/URL], with a very vertical scepter: [ATTACH=full]1050984[/ATTACH] In contrast, RIC 1178, [URL='https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=1198731&partId=1&searchText=Faustina+1178&page=1']BMCRE 1581[/URL], with Vesta holding Palladium and torch, depicts the goddess with her left arm held up near her shoulder, high on the torch: [ATTACH=full]1050983[/ATTACH] But that's immaterial as far as the bust type is concerned. Cohen, RIC, BMCRE, and Strack do not list a veiled bust type for either RIC 1178 or 1179. The most comprehensive reference, Dinsdale,* does not list it, either. I am unable to find another example at ORCE, Wildwinds, or acsearchinfo. That variety is scarce, if not rare. *Dinsdale, Paul H. [I]Antoninus Pius and Marcus Aurelius Caesar AD 138-161: Antonine Coinage.[/I] Leeds, Paul H Dinsdale, 2018.[/QUOTE]
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