What's wrong with this picture (literally)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by DJCoinz, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    I wouldn't do it, either.
    Not for myself, or anyone else.
    Looking back at my youth, one would never fathom I could develope such ethics.
    LOL
     
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  3. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Daniel, That's pretty impressive, I didn't notice the missing frost on the stars and letters until you did your little project and placed the photos side by side.
     
  4. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Daniel,

    After seeing the photos that you photoshopped, I now see what you mean and admit that I was wrong! Just to make sure, I enlarged the Seller's pics of the coin and you can actually see the cropping (outlining) lines around Miss Liberty's bust where he or she roamed inside or outside of the lines. I must say that I am impressed with your editing of the pics of the coin you did! I could never be that steady in (cropping) outlining due to too many years of drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes and I don't even have a decent Photo program that I could use to do the same work. The Seller could not do the same to the Lettering, Stars and Date due to the amount of toning and hazing which would be a dead giveaway of photoshopping! I will now remember to look for the clues you pointed out when looking at coins on eBay or other internet sites.

    I am sorry for the disagreement! You know, the Seller could have just used the technique that I told you about to remove the haze and toning but he or she would have had to break it out of the slab.:hammer:


    Frank
     
  5. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    No problem. :) BTW, there is an "undo last action" button you can press if you make a mistake when you're outlining something. ;) :D
     
  6. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Don't Drink The Kool-Aid

    What image editing software do you use, Daniel? Photoshop?
     
  7. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    Nice detective work and a great Photoshop display Daniel! This thread is a good lesson to all.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Now all ya have to worry about is when they actually add frost to the coin itself :secret:
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Look at the marks around the lips and under the nose, it is obviously the same coin, no doubt. Photo manipulation for sure tho, of what kind, I could not even guess.

    If you look at some of his feedback, I have purchased a cpl of these Morgans from him, NGC toners, always had a great transaction.:kewl:
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Daniel,
    What you did to those pics scares the heck out of me....hmmmmm
     
  11. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Sorry to take so long in the reply OKC, been away from the computer for a while. :) I used Windows Picture it! 7.0 to do what I did to the photos above. It comes with Microsoft Works Suite 2003. I also have Jasc Paint Shop Pro 9, which is basically the equivalent of Photoshop.
    To tell you the truth, it scares me too. :eek: If I can do it, I'm sure there are plenty of others who can do it also. Including scammers. :(
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And they have been doing it for years. Which is why you should never base your buying descisions on pictures. KNOW your seller or don't buy - it's that simple.
     
  13. CoinGal07

    CoinGal07 Still Collecting

    All the photoshopping aside ... Is that a VAM 31? The zero in 1880 looks odd...
     
  14. BostonMike

    BostonMike Senior Member

    I think we are overanalyzing this here.


    All i see if that they blacked out the background to make the coin more easily viewable. I would prob do the same thing. Just an easy click of the fill button
     
  15. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Nope.
     
  16. Jhonn

    Jhonn Team Awesome

    Being a Photoshop whiz myself, I can add that it doesn't even take that steady of a hand to do what DJ did, esp. if you have something like a Wacom pen tablet (http://www.wacom.com) and the magnetic lasso tool in Photoshop. :rolling:
     
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