What's Wrong With This Coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    This Titus Thracian dupondius was up for auction today on eBay.

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    Nice looking coin, right? Can anyone guess why I passed on it?

    BTW, it sold for $247. If not for my reservations, I would've been all in for it.
     
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Is there an extra POT at the end of the obverse legend? You id not give a weight or diameter but the fabric looks more like I expect of a sestertius than a dupondius. I am no expert on Flavians let alone Thracian mint coins so any 'wrong' feelings I have are founded on ignorance rather than knowing what I am doing.
     
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  4. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Copied from the listing:
    Titus Bronze Dupondius. AD 80 - 81. Mint in Thrace
    29 mm. 12.40g.
    RIC 503; C. 189; BMC 314(Lugdunum); RPC 507; BN 325.
    gVF, with untouched olive-green patina.

    I suppose I shouldn't have been so coy in my post. My reservations don't have anything to do with rarity or authenticity doubts.
     
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  5. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    I still have more to learn than I know so mine is a guess.
    I cant figure out what is going on with the Obverse legend, has it been tooled and wrongly at that ?
     
  6. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    Smoothing in the fields with possible artificial re-patination of some of the smoothed areas?
     
  7. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...It is correctly attributed.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Metal gouged out at his temple, filled and repatinated, maybe a bronze disease cure? Maybe a plugged hole?
     
  9. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    The hair of Roma looks tooled to me..
     
  10. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    The cuirass looks a little 'funny' but I have not seen enough of these to know. Everything seems pretty good, but you are the expert on this series. I'll be watching close so I can learn something.
     
  11. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Something about the reverse is odd, not sure what I'm seeing there.
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I have no idea, but want to find out
     
  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    @Plumbata and @John Anthony expressed my concerns. The smoothing in the fields and the gouge that looks purposely chiseled were deal breakers. It's hard telling what else was reworked that isn't so obvious. I would've gladly paid 3 times the hammer price if it had been untouched.

    Surprisingly, it was correctly attributed!
     
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