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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Finn235, post: 3979207, member: 98035&quot;]I thought the Lydian WALWET coins were possibly older, associated to Alyattes?</p><p><br /></p><p>The oldest I have depicting the issuing monarch is Ptolemy I - I believe he beat out Seleucus I by a few years to appear on coins</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1047388[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The oldest that I have with a monarch&#039;s name is a toss up between two Lycian satraps who have overlapping rules</p><p><br /></p><p>Trbbenimi, c.380-370 BC</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1047411[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Perikles, c. 380-360 BC</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1047412[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s interesting that the Greeks only put gods, animals and inanimate objects on coins until after Alexander died. The satraps of the Achaemenids did not hold that taboo, although nearly all of the ones I own are not definitively attributable because they don&#039;t name the portrait.</p><p><br /></p><p>The satrapal headdress indicates that these two depict the living, ruling Satrap, although we don&#039;t know who it is</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1047415[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1047413[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This intriguing reverse depicts an Achaemenid emperor, although whether it is a lifetime portrait of Artaxerxes III or just the Great King Achamenes, we can&#039;t tell.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1047414[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Related are the inscribed coins of Tadanmu, or Datames as the Greeks call him. Some of his staters definitely depict him, but is this the Satrap, or Ares?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1047427[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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