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Message:: [QUOTE="ToughCOINS, post: 26574199, member: 20480"]Okay . . . not trying to confuse anyone, but I shift gears between methods . . . a lot! When referencing the rim I always use clock position.  I also frequently use clock position when describing the orientation of die polish or rolling marks . . . parallel with a line running from 11:00 to 4:00. For stars, I reference them by number, counting clockwise from first to last. In the legend I reference the letter in the word, such as second S in STATES. In reference to the devices I usually try to cite specific features of the devices . . . Miss Liberty's left forearm or the eagle's right talons as examples when the possessive case applies.  When the possessive case doesn't apply to the devices, as with inanimate objects like the Lincoln Memorial or Monticello, I refer to the features from my perspective . . . right end of steps on the memorial, or bottom step of Monticello. Concerning the fields between the devices and the rim, I usually try to describe the location as being some distance between one of the above and a clock position. So much for keeping things simple. Why do I do this?  It's mainly to be able to pinpoint almost exactly where someone should be looking for some detail that is less than obvious. I certainly can't expect others to go to such lengths, but I'm hopeful it helps when someone else can't see what I do, and wants more to go on.[/QUOTE]