What's the best thing to do with this 1921 peace dollar to make it look more attractive

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 1916DMerc, Oct 26, 2017.

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What's the best way to make this coin more attractive

  1. How to clean

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  1. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well you asked if you should do something to it to "lighten it". You say someone whose opinion you respect said you should dip it. Here many collectors with probably several hundred years of experience have ALL told you to do nothing to it. Not one person here has recommended dipping it.

    I'll add my 50 years of experience, leave it alone, it looks great the way it is!
     
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  3. Bill1517

    Bill1517 Active Member

    Leave it alone. If you want a better example, sell it and upgrade
     
  4. NPCoin

    NPCoin Resident Imbecile

    Here, I lightened the obverse for you. You can do the reverse on your own. You just open your photo into your favorite graphics manipulation program and adjust the hue-saturation to remove the toning look, and the brightness and contrast for that nice white look.

    I personally believe it looks best as is.
     

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  5. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Leave it alone. It's perfect just the way it is. If you clean it it will look like all the other dipped coins in the world. There is no reason to dip it. First do no harm, if dipped, this coin would loose it's appeal.
     
  6. ALAN DAVIS

    ALAN DAVIS Old Sopemaker

    Looks beautiful to me!
     
  7. 1916DMerc

    1916DMerc Member

    What grade in youropinion u think it is?. BTW I also like cream n sugar. the coin was way to dark, don't u think? What do u think pcgs would have graded it since they don't like dark coins?
     
  8. 1916DMerc

    1916DMerc Member

    btf "my friend" know more about this stuff (all due respect than probably most people in this room put together). He travels the world dealing.
     
  9. 1916DMerc

    1916DMerc Member

    btw yes some natural toning is gorgous, if u consider this natural toning beautiful, u must like black coins. not to much color to black last time I checked
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Okay, okay...

    I am truly sorry.

    Forgive me.


    Now, to the OP:

    Brillo-- no!

    Cleanser, like AJAX? Yes!
     
  11. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    Yes indeed! I would gladly trade my (obviously cleaned,) shiny 1921 Peace $ for that one.
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You come in here, and your mindset is already fixed.
    You are not open to any suggestions other than what you already want to do.
    You don't get the answers you want, so you argue your point again.
    100% of the posts have said not to clean the coin. Many experts.
    Your dealer buddy may or may not be a collector.
    Go ahead and ruin the coin. You learn more from your mistakes anyway.
     
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  13. Jwat2000

    Jwat2000 New Member

    Leave it like it is!!! If you do dip it then sell it make sure you put processed in the title. Like SuperDave said, seasoned collectors will know instantly but the new ones might not. Selling it as original would be the textbook definition of fraud.
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    This is exactly why people usually get the answers that they get in this forum.
     
  15. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I would think a TPGer would grade your coin AU50 -53. The toning is not a factor in the grade here. Or only if they felt it was eating into the coin, in which case dipping would only make that more obvious.
     
  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yet his advice to you goes against some of the most elementary truths about numismatics. Coin Collecting 101: Don't touch it if it's original!

    I don't care how long he's been traveling the world and dealing. A person who would offer advice like that, for a coin like that, has at best compromised their morals and is a danger to the broader picture of numismatics. Even worse, apparent decades of experience have not had any effect on their ability to ignore the larger picture. If you value your relationship with this person, do not identify them publicly because they will go on every "don't touch this dealer" list there is.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And with all due respect, there are some dealers who have very different ideas about which coins should be dipped and which ones should not. Some dealers fit into that category I mentioned, they just don't like toned coins period and think all toned coins should be dipped. Perhaps your friend is one of these people, then again maybe he isn't.

    Now what you don't know is this. Some of the people on this forum are also very well known and highly respected dealers. Some of the people on this forum have worked as professional coin graders at the TPGs for 30-40 years. Some of the people on this forum are respected numismatic authors and researchers. And, there's the other end of the spectrum as well, some of the people on this forum don't know squat about coins.

    I would add this, not one person who has posted in this thread has given you bad advice, well except for Frank of course. But Frank, he's just being Frank, being a wiseguy in other words.
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Do you, perchance, happen to recall the old saying about what happens when we assume?

    I certainly will not resort to the ridiculous virtue signaling a certain other has, and simply because it serves no helpful purpose. Again, it is your coin to do with as you see fit, and it has become quite clear you want to do what you want to do regardless of what any of the supposed rank novices here tell you.

    That said, you strike me as rather new to this game, and for this reason alone I can't help but to wonder if you've even a clue as to how to properly dip your coin. Believe it or not, it's perfectly easy, often much easier than doing it right, to ruin-ruin a coin by improperly dipping it, but pay this no mind; do what you want to it, but please, don't come back here asking for advice once you've accomplished the exact opposite of your stated goal of increasing its value. Some people, no matter how many times they're told that the stove is hot, just have to touch it and learn for themselves.

    However, I will suggest that if this world-traveling Einstein-esque "dealer" is indeed such a knowledgeable hotshot, perhaps he'd be willing to put his money where his mouth is? The fact is that giving advice is very easy and many are willing to do so when it's not their money at risk. There's no harm in asking him to prove it and/or himself to you, especially if you have and/or are planning on being a regular customer.
     
  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Okay, I give up . . . you're a lost cause!
     
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  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Leave that coin alone! It’s a really nice looker as is.

    Is your friend who travels the world a member of this forum, if you don’t mind me asking? I ask because the one I’m thinking about is a trolling fraud.
     
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  21. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    DON'T CLEAN IT! If you don't like the way it looks sell it to someone who will appreciate its toning, and buy one that someone else are already ruined by cleaning it. Don't ruin another coin.
     
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